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::::::: If I understand you correctly, for an EDO that subdivides a the [[apotome]] into 15 equal-sized parts, we need "quartertones" that are 7/15 of an aptome but with symbols can be distinguished from 50-cent symbols not being used here? Isn't ''this'' the problem: that you wish to include quartertone symbols to ease adapting the system to people familiar with [[24edo]]? But if this is the case, wouldn't it be better to tell them "the truth" about quartertones: that they aren't actually quarter tones? Remember: the semitones in this system aren't 100cents either but we decided to use the exact symbols of [[12edo]]. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

:::::::: I'm perfectly aware of the fact that two "semitones" add up to more than a "whole tone" in this system- the same problem on a different level, as they are ''still'' called "semitones" in spite of this- but we seem to have a way of getting around that in this ~~system~~ by means of the double sharp and double flat accidentals... I guess you could say that I want to come up with a similar solution for these "quartertones". Alternatively, we should not only mention that the "quartertones" aren't exactly "quartertones", but also that the "semitones" aren't exactly "semitones"... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

:::::::: I'm perfectly aware of the fact that two "semitones" add up to more than a "whole tone" in this system- the same problem on a different level, as they are ''still'' called "semitones" in spite of this- but we seem to have a way of getting around that in this and other systems by means of the double sharp and double flat accidentals... I guess you could say that I want to come up with a similar solution for these "quartertones". Alternatively, we should not only mention that the "quartertones" aren't exactly "quartertones", but also that the "semitones" aren't exactly "semitones"... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

:::::::: Either way you look at it, and regardless of the option we choose, 33/32 is to the 11-limit what the apotome is to the 3-limit... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

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 ::::::: If I understand you correctly, for an EDO that subdivides a the [[apotome]] into 15 equal-sized parts, we need "quartertones" that are 7/15 of an aptome but with symbols can be distinguished from 50-cent symbols not being used here? Isn't ''this'' the problem: that you wish to include quartertone symbols to ease adapting the system to people familiar with [[24edo]]? But if this is the case, wouldn't it be better to tell them "the truth" about quartertones: that they aren't actually quarter tones? Remember: the semitones in this system aren't 100cents either but we decided to use the exact symbols of [[12edo]]. --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 21:27, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
-:::::::: I'm perfectly aware of the fact that two "semitones" add up to more than a "whole tone" in this system- the same problem on a different level, as they are ''still'' called "semitones" in spite of this- but we seem to have a way of getting around that in this system by means of the double sharp and double flat accidentals...  I guess you could say that I want to come up with a similar solution for these "quartertones".  Alternatively, we should  not only mention that the "quartertones" aren't exactly "quartertones", but also that the "semitones" aren't exactly "semitones"... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
+:::::::: I'm perfectly aware of the fact that two "semitones" add up to more than a "whole tone" in this system- the same problem on a different level, as they are ''still'' called "semitones" in spite of this- but we seem to have a way of getting around that in this and other systems by means of the double sharp and double flat accidentals...  I guess you could say that I want to come up with a similar solution for these "quartertones".  Alternatively, we should  not only mention that the "quartertones" aren't exactly "quartertones", but also that the "semitones" aren't exactly "semitones"... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:40, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 :::::::: Either way you look at it, and regardless of the option we choose, 33/32 is to the 11-limit what the apotome is to the 3-limit... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 21:53, 13 October 2020 (UTC)