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=== Octave stretch === | === Octave stretch === | ||
42edo’s | 42edo’s inaccurate 3rd and 5th harmonics can be greatly improved through [[octave stretching]] or [[octave shrinking]]. Both approaches work about equally well but in opposite directions, giving two quite different flavors of tuning to play with. | ||
The following is a table comparing stretched and shrunk tunings of 42edo: | |||
'''Key''' | |||
* | *“Great” = <20% relative error | ||
* | *“Good” = 20 to 30% relative error | ||
*“Poor” = >30% relative error | |||
{| class="wikitable | {| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | ||
|+ | |+ | ||
! | !Tuning | ||
!42ed257/128 | ![[Ed257/128#42ed257/128|42ed257/128]] <br>(~41.77edo) | ||
!42edo | ![[zpi|189zpi]] <br>(~41.83edo) | ||
!42ed255/128 | ![[42edo]] | ||
![[zpi|191zpi]] <br>(~42.19edo) | |||
![[Ed255/128#42ed255/128|42ed255/128]] <br>(~42.24edo) | |||
|- | |- | ||
! | !Summary | ||
!great: 3, 5 <br>good: 2, 7 <br>poor: 11, 13 | |||
!great: 2, 5 <br>good: 3, 11, 13 <br>poor: 7 | |||
!great: 2, 7 <br>good: 11 <br>poor: 3, 5, 13 | |||
!great: 2, 3, 5, 11, 13 <br>good: - <br>poor: 7 | |||
!great: 3, 5, 11 <br>good: 2 <br>poor: 7, 13 | |||
|- | |||
|2/1 relative error | |||
|23.5% | |23.5% | ||
|17.2% | |||
|0.0% | |0.0% | ||
|18.8% | |||
|23.9% | |23.9% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|3/1 rel. err. | |||
|19.6% | |19.6% | ||
|29.6% | |||
|43.2% | |43.2% | ||
|13.4% | |||
|5.4% | |5.4% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|5/1 rel. err. | |||
|2.4% | | 2.4% | ||
|12.2% | |||
|47.9% | |47.9% | ||
| 4.3% | |||
|7.5% | |7.5% | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7/1 rel. err. | |||
|24.9% | |24.9% | ||
|42.6% | |||
|9.1% | |9.1% | ||
| 43.6% | |||
|42.2% | |42.2% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|11/1 rel. err. | |||
|48.3% | | 48.3% | ||
|29.6% | |29.8% | ||
| 29.6% | |||
|5.5% | |||
|12.1% | |12.1% | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 13/1 rel. err. | |||
|45.1% | |45.1% | ||
|21.7% | |||
|41.8% | |41.8% | ||
|11.3% | |||
|30.1% | |30.1% | ||
|} | |} | ||
== Intervals == | |||
==Intervals== | |||
{| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-4" | {| class="wikitable center-all right-2 left-4" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! # | !# | ||
! Cents | !Cents | ||
! colspan="3" |[[Ups and Downs Notation]] | ! colspan="3" |[[Ups and Downs Notation]] | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 0 | |0 | ||
| 0.000 | | 0.000 | ||
| P1 | |P1 | ||
| perfect unison | |perfect unison | ||
| D | | D | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 1 | |1 | ||
| 28.571 | |28.571 | ||
| ^1, m2 | |^1, m2 | ||
| up unison, minor 2nd | | up unison, minor 2nd | ||
| ^D, Eb | |^D, Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 2 | |2 | ||
| 57.143 | |57.143 | ||
| ^^1, ^m2 | |^^1, ^m2 | ||
| dup 1sn, upminor 2nd | |dup 1sn, upminor 2nd | ||
| ^^D, ^Eb | | ^^D, ^Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 3 | |3 | ||
| 85.714 | |85.714 | ||
| ^^m2 | |^^m2 | ||
| dupminor 2nd | |dupminor 2nd | ||
| ^^Eb | |^^Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 4 | | 4 | ||
| 114.286 | |114.286 | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>m | |^<sup>3</sup>m | ||
| trupminor 2nd | |trupminor 2nd | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>Eb | |^<sup>3</sup>Eb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 5 | |5 | ||
| 143.857 | |143.857 | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>M | |v<sup>3</sup>M | ||
| trudmajor 2nd | |trudmajor 2nd | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>E | |v<sup>3</sup>E | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 6 | |6 | ||
| 171.429 | |171.429 | ||
| vvM2 | |vvM2 | ||
| dudmajor 2nd | | dudmajor 2nd | ||
| vvE | |vvE | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 7 | |7 | ||
| 200.000 | |200.000 | ||
| vM2 | |vM2 | ||
| downmajor 2nd | |downmajor 2nd | ||
| vE | |vE | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 8 | | 8 | ||
| 228.571 | |228.571 | ||
| M2 | |M2 | ||
| major 2nd | |major 2nd | ||
| E | | E | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 9 | |9 | ||
| 257.143 | |257.143 | ||
| m3 | |m3 | ||
| minor 3rd | |minor 3rd | ||
| F | |F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 10 | |10 | ||
| 285.714 | | 285.714 | ||
| ^m3 | |^m3 | ||
| upminor 3rd | | upminor 3rd | ||
| ^F | |^F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 11 | |11 | ||
| 314.286 | |314.286 | ||
| ^^m3 | |^^m3 | ||
| dupminor 3rd | |dupminor 3rd | ||
| ^^F | |^^F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 12 | |12 | ||
| 342.857 | |342.857 | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>m3 | |^<sup>3</sup>m3 | ||
| trupminor 3rd | | trupminor 3rd | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>F | |^<sup>3</sup>F | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 13 | |13 | ||
| 371.429 | |371.429 | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>M3 | |v<sup>3</sup>M3 | ||
| trudmajor 3rd | |trudmajor 3rd | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>F# | |v<sup>3</sup>F# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 14 | |14 | ||
| 400.000 | |400.000 | ||
| vvM3 | |vvM3 | ||
| dudmajor 3rd | |dudmajor 3rd | ||
| vvF# | |vvF# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 15 | |15 | ||
| 428.571 | |428.571 | ||
| vM3 | |vM3 | ||
| downmajor 3rd | |downmajor 3rd | ||
| vF# | | vF# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 16 | |16 | ||
| 457.143 | | 457.143 | ||
| M3, v4 | |M3, v4 | ||
| major 3rd, down 4th | |major 3rd, down 4th | ||
| F#, vG | |F#, vG | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 17 | | 17 | ||
| 485.714 | |485.714 | ||
| P4 | |P4 | ||
| perfect 4th | |perfect 4th | ||
| G | |G | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 18 | |18 | ||
| 514.286 | | 514.286 | ||
| ^4 | |^4 | ||
| up 4th | |up 4th | ||
| ^G | |^G | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 19 | |19 | ||
| 543.857 | |543.857 | ||
| ^^4 | | ^^4 | ||
| dup 4th | |dup 4th | ||
| ^^G | |^^G | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 20 | |20 | ||
| 571.429 | |571.429 | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>4, ^^d5 | |^<sup>3</sup>4, ^^d5 | ||
| trup 4th, dupdim 5th | | trup 4th, dupdim 5th | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>G, ^^Ab | | ^<sup>3</sup>G, ^^Ab | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 21 | |21 | ||
| 600.000 | |600.000 | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>A4, ^<sup>3</sup>d5 | |v<sup>3</sup>A4, ^<sup>3</sup>d5 | ||
| trudaug 4th, trupdim 5th | |trudaug 4th, trupdim 5th | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>G#, ^<sup>3</sup>Ab | |v<sup>3</sup>G#, ^<sup>3</sup>Ab | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 22 | |22 | ||
| 628.571 | |628.571 | ||
| vvA4, v<sup>3</sup>5 | |vvA4, v<sup>3</sup>5 | ||
| dudaug 4th, trud 5th | |dudaug 4th, trud 5th | ||
| vvG#, v<sup>3</sup>A | |vvG#, v<sup>3</sup>A | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 23 | |23 | ||
| 657.143 | |657.143 | ||
| vv5 | |vv5 | ||
| dud 5th | |dud 5th | ||
| vvA | |vvA | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 24 | |24 | ||
| 685.714 | | 685.714 | ||
| v5 | |v5 | ||
| down 5th | |down 5th | ||
| vA | | vA | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 25 | |25 | ||
| 714.286 | |714.286 | ||
| P5 | |P5 | ||
| perfect 5th | |perfect 5th | ||
| A | |A | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 26 | |26 | ||
| 742.857 | |742.857 | ||
| ^5, m6 | |^5, m6 | ||
| up 5th, minor 6th | |up 5th, minor 6th | ||
| ^A, Bb | |^A, Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 27 | |27 | ||
| 771.429 | |771.429 | ||
| ^m6 | |^m6 | ||
| upminor 6th | |upminor 6th | ||
| ^Bb | |^Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 28 | |28 | ||
| 800.000 | |800.000 | ||
| ^^m6 | |^^m6 | ||
| dupminor 6th | |dupminor 6th | ||
| ^^Bb | |^^Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 29 | |29 | ||
| 828.571 | |828.571 | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>m6 | |^<sup>3</sup>m6 | ||
| trupminor 6th | | trupminor 6th | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>Bb | | ^<sup>3</sup>Bb | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 30 | |30 | ||
| 857.143 | |857.143 | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>M6 | |v<sup>3</sup>M6 | ||
| trudmajor 6th | |trudmajor 6th | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>B | |v<sup>3</sup>B | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 31 | | 31 | ||
| 885.714 | |885.714 | ||
| vvM6 | |vvM6 | ||
| dudmajor 6th | |dudmajor 6th | ||
| vvB | |vvB | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 32 | |32 | ||
| 914.286 | |914.286 | ||
| vM6 | |vM6 | ||
| downmajor 6th | |downmajor 6th | ||
| vB | |vB | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 33 | |33 | ||
| 942.857 | |942.857 | ||
| M6 | |M6 | ||
| major 6th | |major 6th | ||
| B | |B | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 34 | | 34 | ||
| 971.429 | |971.429 | ||
| m7 | |m7 | ||
| minor 7th | |minor 7th | ||
| C | |C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 35 | |35 | ||
| 1000.000 | |1000.000 | ||
| ^m7 | |^m7 | ||
| upminor 7th | |upminor 7th | ||
| ^C | |^C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 36 | |36 | ||
| 1028.571 | |1028.571 | ||
| ^^m7 | |^^m7 | ||
| dupminor 7th | | dupminor 7th | ||
| ^^C | |^^C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 37 | |37 | ||
| 1057.143 | |1057.143 | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>m7 | |^<sup>3</sup>m7 | ||
| trupminor 7th | |trupminor 7th | ||
| ^<sup>3</sup>C | |^<sup>3</sup>C | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 38 | |38 | ||
| 1085.714 | |1085.714 | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>M7 | |v<sup>3</sup>M7 | ||
| trudmajor 7th | |trudmajor 7th | ||
| v<sup>3</sup>C# | | v<sup>3</sup>C# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 39 | |39 | ||
| 1114.286 | | 1114.286 | ||
| vvM7 | |vvM7 | ||
| dudmajor 7th | |dudmajor 7th | ||
| vvC# | | vvC# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 40 | |40 | ||
| 1142.857 | |1142.857 | ||
| vM7 | |vM7 | ||
| downmajor 7th | |downmajor 7th | ||
| vC# | |vC# | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 41 | |41 | ||
| 1171.429 | | 1171.429 | ||
| M7, v8 | |M7, v8 | ||
| major 7th, down 8ve | |major 7th, down 8ve | ||
| C#, vD | |C#, vD | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 42 | |42 | ||
| 1200.000 | | 1200.000 | ||
| P8 | |P8 | ||
| perfect 8ve | | perfect 8ve | ||
| D | |D | ||
|} | |} | ||
Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See [[Ups and Downs Notation #Chords and Chord Progressions]]. | Chords can be named using ups and downs as C upminor, D downmajor seven, etc. See [[Ups and Downs Notation #Chords and Chord Progressions]]. | ||
== Notation == | ==Notation== | ||
Assuming the natural notes form a chain of fifths, the major 2nd is 8 edosteps and the minor 2nd is only one. The naturals create a 5edo-like scale, with two of the notes inflected by a comma-sized edostep: | Assuming the natural notes form a chain of fifths, the major 2nd is 8 edosteps and the minor 2nd is only one. The naturals create a 5edo-like scale, with two of the notes inflected by a comma-sized edostep: | ||
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D# is next to E. The notation requires triple ups and downs, even more if chords are to be spelled correctly. For example, a 1/1 - 5/4 - 3/2 - 9/5 chord with a root on the key or fret midway between G and A would be written either as v<sup>3</sup>G# - v<sup>5</sup>B# - v<sup>3</sup>D# - vF# or as ^<sup>3</sup>Ab - ^C - ^<sup>3</sup>Eb - ^<sup>5</sup>Gb. This is a dud dup-seven chord, written either as v<sup>3</sup>G#vv,^^7 or as ^<sup>3</sup>Abvv,^^7. | D# is next to E. The notation requires triple ups and downs, even more if chords are to be spelled correctly. For example, a 1/1 - 5/4 - 3/2 - 9/5 chord with a root on the key or fret midway between G and A would be written either as v<sup>3</sup>G# - v<sup>5</sup>B# - v<sup>3</sup>D# - vF# or as ^<sup>3</sup>Ab - ^C - ^<sup>3</sup>Eb - ^<sup>5</sup>Gb. This is a dud dup-seven chord, written either as v<sup>3</sup>G#vv,^^7 or as ^<sup>3</sup>Abvv,^^7. | ||
== Instruments == | ==Instruments== | ||
; Lumatone | ;Lumatone | ||
See [[Lumatone mapping for 42edo]] | See [[Lumatone mapping for 42edo]] | ||
== Music == | ==Music== | ||
* ''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaSpsQP2qc Improvisation in 42edo]'' - composed and played by [[Bryan Deister]] (May 2023), transcribed by [[Stephen Weigel]] (Sept 2024) | *''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ljaSpsQP2qc Improvisation in 42edo]'' - composed and played by [[Bryan Deister]] (May 2023), transcribed by [[Stephen Weigel]] (Sept 2024) | ||
* ''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORy7nv6SnN8 Glory of Them]'' - [[Mundoworld]] (July 2024) | *''[https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ORy7nv6SnN8 Glory of Them]'' - [[Mundoworld]] (July 2024) | ||
[[Category:Augene]] | [[Category:Augene]] | ||
[[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]] | [[Category:Todo:add rank 2 temperaments table]] | ||