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== Minortone ==
== Minortone ==
Subgroup: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


[[Comma]]: {{monzo| -16 35 -17 }}
[[Comma list]]: {{monzo| -16 35 -17 }}


[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 }}]


[[POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.466
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.466


{{Val list|legend=1| 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091 }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 46, 125, 171, 388, 559, 730, 1289, 2019, 2749, 4768, 16323, 21091 }}
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However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)<sup>4</sup>, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo]]. 21 generators gives a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.
However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)<sup>4</sup>, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in [[171edo]]. 21 generators gives a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152
[[Comma list]]: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152
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{{Multival|legend=1| 17 35 -21 16 -81 -147 }}
{{Multival|legend=1| 17 35 -21 16 -81 -147 }}


[[POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.458
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.458


{{Val list|legend=1| 46, 125, 171, 1927d, 2098d, …, 3637bcdd }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 46, 125, 171, 1927d, 2098d, …, 3637bcdd }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 10 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -43 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 10 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -43 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.482
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.482


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125e, 171, 217, 605ee, 822dee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125e, 171, 217, 605ee, 822dee }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 10 11 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -43 -48 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 10 11 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -43 -48 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.481
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.481


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125e, 171, 217, 605ee, 822dee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125e, 171, 217, 605ee, 822dee }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 10 11 5 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -43 -48 -6 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 10 11 5 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -43 -48 -6 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.481
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.481


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125e, 171, 217, 605ee, 822dee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125e, 171, 217, 605ee, 822dee }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.449
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.449


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125, 171e }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125, 171e }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 11 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -48 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 11 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -48 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.470
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.470


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125, 171e, 388ee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125, 171e, 388ee }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 11 5 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -48 -6 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 11 5 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -48 -6 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.471
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.471


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125, 171e, 388ee }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125, 171e, 388ee }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 4 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -2 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 4 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -2 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.437
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.437


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 79, 125f, 171ef, 296eff }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 79, 125f, 171ef, 296eff }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 4 5 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -2 -6 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 -1 -3 6 3 4 5 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 3 -2 -6 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.444
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.444


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125f, 171ef }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 125f, 171ef }}
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Mapping: [{{val| 2 -2 -6 12 13 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -20 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 2 -2 -6 12 13 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 -21 -20 }}]


POTE generator: ~10/9 = 182.457
Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.457


Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 204c, 250, 296, 342 }}
Optimal GPV sequence: {{Val list| 46, 204c, 250, 296, 342 }}
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== Domain ==
== Domain ==
''Not to be confused with [[domain]] as in basis mapping.''
{{See also| Landscape microtemperaments #Domain }}


Domain temperament adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic pairs #Terrain|terrain]].
''Domain'' adds the [[landscape comma]], 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament [[Chromatic pairs #Terrain|terrain]].


Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7


[[Comma list]]: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712
[[Comma list]]: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712
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[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 3 -3 -9 -8 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 36 }}]
[[Mapping]]: [{{val| 3 -3 -9 -8 }}, {{val| 0 17 35 36 }}]


[[POTE generator]]: ~10/9 = 182.467
[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~63/50 = 1\3, ~10/9 = 182.467


{{Val list|legend=1| 171, 1164, 1335, 1506, 1677, 1848, 2019, 11943, 13962, 15981, 18000, 20019, 22038 }}
{{Val list|legend=1| 171, 1164, 1335, 1506, 1677, 1848, 2019, 11943, 13962, 15981, 18000, 20019, 22038 }}

Revision as of 03:14, 8 January 2023

The minortonic family tempers out the minortone comma (also known as "minortonma"), [-16 35 -17⟩. The head of this family is five-limit minortone temperament, with generator a minor tone.

Minortone

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: [-16 35 -17⟩

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3], ⟨0 17 35]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.466

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.029765

Mitonic

As a 5-limit temperament, mitonic becomes minortonic, a super-accurate microtemperament tempering out the minortone comma, [-16 35 -17⟩. Flipping that gives the 5-limit wedgie ⟨⟨ 17 35 16 ]], which tells us that 10/9 can be taken as the generator, with 17 of them giving a 6, 18 of them a 20/3, and 35 of them giving a 40. The generator should be tuned about 1/16 of a cent flat, with 61/17 being 0.06423 cents flat and 401/35 being 0.06234 cents flat. 171, 559 and 730 are possible equal temperament tunings.

However, as noted before, 32/21 is only a ragisma shy of (10/9)4, and so a 7-limit interpretation, if not quite so super-accurate, is more or less inevitable. While 559 or 730 are still fine as tunings, the error of the 7-limit is lower by a whisker in 171edo. 21 generators gives a 64/7. MOS of size 20, 33, 46 or 79 notes can be used for mitonic.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6], ⟨0 17 35 -21]]

Wedgie: ⟨⟨ 17 35 -21 16 -81 -147 ]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.458

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.025184

Mineral

Extending mitonic to the 11-limit is not so simple. There are two mappings that are comparable in complexity and error: mineral (46&171) and ore (46&125). The mineral temperament tempers out 441/440 and 16384/16335 in the 11-limit. In the 17-limit, both mineral and ore temper out 833/832, 1225/1224, 1701/1700, and 4096/4095 (2.3.5.7.13.17 commas). The word "mineral" is related to "mine" (an excavation from which ore or solid minerals are taken) and "miner" (a person who works in a mine, also as a pun on "minor").

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 441/440, 4375/4374, 16384/16335

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 10], ⟨0 17 35 -21 -43]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.482

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.059060

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 3584/3575, 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 10 11], ⟨0 17 35 -21 -43 -48]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.481

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.033140

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 364/363, 441/440, 595/594, 1156/1155, 3584/3575

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 10 11 5], ⟨0 17 35 -21 -43 -48 -6]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.481

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.019792

Ore

The ore temperament tempers out 385/384 and 1331/1323 in the 11-limit, and maps 11/8 to three generators.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 385/384, 1331/1323, 4375/4374

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 3], ⟨0 17 35 -21 3]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.449

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.053662

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 352/351, 385/384, 1331/1323, 3267/3250

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 3 11], ⟨0 17 35 -21 3 -48]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.470

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.046170

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 352/351, 385/384, 561/560, 715/714, 1452/1445

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 3 11 5], ⟨0 17 35 -21 3 -48 -6]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.471

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.028423

Goldmine

The goldmine temperament (46&79) is another 13-limit extension of ore, equating 13/12 with 14/13 and 16/13 with two 10/9s.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 169/168, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 3 4], ⟨0 17 35 -21 3 -2]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.437

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.039302

17-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 169/168, 273/272, 325/324, 385/384, 1331/1323

Mapping: [⟨1 -1 -3 6 3 4 5], ⟨0 17 35 -21 3 -2 -6]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.444

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.027440

Seminar

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 3025/3024, 4375/4374, 2100875/2097152

Mapping: [⟨2 -2 -6 12 13], ⟨0 17 35 -21 -20]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~2 = 1\1, ~10/9 = 182.457

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Badness: 0.026808

Domain

See also: Landscape microtemperaments § Domain

Domain adds the landscape comma, 250047/250000, to the minortone comma, giving a temperament which is perhaps most notable for its inclusion of the remarkable subgroup temperament terrain.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 250047/250000, 645700815/645657712

Mapping: [⟨3 -3 -9 -8], ⟨0 17 35 36]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~63/50 = 1\3, ~10/9 = 182.467

Template:Val list

Badness: 0.013979

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