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'''9 equal divisions of the octave''' ('''9edo''') is the [[tuning system]] derived by dividing the [[octave]] into 9 equal steps of 133+1/3 [[cent]]s each precisely. It is also the first odd composite edo.


== Theory ==
== Theory ==
{{Harmonics in equal|9}}
[[File:9edo scale.mp3|thumb|A chromatic 9edo scale on C.]]
[[File:9edo scale.mp3|thumb|A chromatic 9edo scale on C.]]
The 9edo scale has the peculiar property of representing certain [[7-limit]] intervals almost exactly. A 7-limit version of 9edo goes


1: 27/25 133.238 large limma, BP small semitone
9edo is the most basic tuning which supports an [[antidiatonic]] scale. Its fifth is considerably flatter than just, but still falls into the category of "fifth" despite this. 9edo is also the first edo to have distinct major and minor chords (if 5edo's tendo and arto chords are ignored).
 
9edo splits the octave into three parts, each representing the major third 5/4, similarly to 12edo, which is of moderate accuracy. A similarly crude approximation of 11/8 (a sharp fourth) is available at the perfect fourth of 4 steps, which means 9edo can be seen as a simple 2.5.11 system. Looking at the intervals in this subgroup, the submajor second 11/10 is tuned to 133 cents (extremely flat) and 25/22 is even worse (but still consistent); the supermajor sixth 55/32 is tuned very accurately at 933 cents (only slightly flat). Overall, 9edo is not a great system for approximating low-complexity JI intervals consistently. However, if we turn to inconsistent representations, we see quite a few options before us. In particular, the 9edo scale has the peculiar property of representing certain [[7-limit]] intervals almost exactly, but not the harmonic 7/4 (a subminor seventh) itself (unless [[semaphore]], which equates it with the supermajor sixth 12/7, is taken as an acceptable temperament in this tuning). A 7-limit version of 9edo goes
 
1: [[27/25]] 133.238 large limma, BP small semitone
 
2: [[7/6]] 266.871 septimal minor third
 
3: [[63/50]] 400.108 quasi-equal major third


2: 7/6 266.871 septimal minor third
4: [[49/36]] 533.742 Arabic lute acute fourth


3: 63/50 400.108 quasi-equal major third
5: [[72/49]] 666.258 Arabic lute grave fifth


4: 49/36 533.742 Arabic lute acute fourth
6: [[100/63]] 799.892 quasi-equal minor sixth


5: 72/49 666.258 Arabic lute grave fifth
7: [[12/7]] 933.129 septimal major sixth


6: 100/63 799.892 quasi-equal minor sixth
8: [[50/27]] 1066.762 grave major seventh


7: 12/7 933.129 septimal major sixth
9: [[2/1]] 1200.000 octave


8: 50/27 1066.762 grave major seventh
Chords such as {{dash|1/1, 7/6, 49/36, 12/7|med}} are therefore natural ones for 9edo. The above scale generates the [[just intonation subgroup]] 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9edo.  


9: 2/1 1200.000 octave
=== Odd harmonics ===
{{Harmonics in equal|9}}


Here the characterizations are taken from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scala_%28program%29 Scala], which also describes the scale itself as "Pelog Nawanada: Sunda". Chords such as 1/1 - 7/6 - 49/36 - 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9edo. The above scale generates the [[Just_intonation_subgroups|just intonation subgroup]] 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9edo.
=== Subsets and supersets ===
9edo is the first odd composite edo, containing [[3edo]] as a subset.  
 
The [[ennealimmal]] temperament contains 9edo as a subset (splitting 2/1 into 9 equal parts) and is excellent in the 7-limit. However, 9edo by itself tempers out 27/25 by [[Val|patent val]], rather than representing it as 1\9 like in ennealimmal, although the 9bccd val contains both the 27/25 and 7/6 representations above and therefore supports ennealimmal.


== Notation ==
== Notation ==
9edo can be notated with conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. in two ways. The first preserves the <u>melodic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim. The disadvantage to this approach is that conventional interval arithmetic no longer works. e.g. M2 + M2 isn't M3, and D + M2 isn't E. Chord names are different because C - E - G isn't P1 - M3 - P5.
{{Mavila}}
 
In this notation, the [[enharmonic unison]] is the augmented 2nd, e.g. E♭ to F♯.
The second approach preserves the <u>harmonic</u> meaning of sharp/flat, major/minor and aug/dim, in that the former is always further fifthwards on the chain of fifths than the latter. Sharp is lower in pitch than flat, and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim. While this approach may seem bizarre at first, interval arithmetic and chord names work as usual. Furthermore, conventional 12edo music can be directly translated to 9edo "on the fly".


{| class="wikitable center-all right-1 right-2"
{| class="wikitable center-all right-1 right-2"
! [[degree]]
|-
! [[cent]]s
![[degree]]
! Approximate <br>Ratios
![[cent]]s
! colspan="2" | Melodic notation <br> Major wider than minor
! Approximate<br />Ratios
! colspan="2" | Harmonic notation <br> Major narrower than minor
! colspan="2" | Antidiatonic<br />Major wider than minor
!Audio
! colspan="2" | Diatonic<br />Major narrower than minor
! Audio
|-
|-
| 0
| 0
| 0.00
| 0.00
| 1/1
|[[1/1]]
| perfect unison
| perfect unison
| D
| D
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| 1
| 1
| 133.33
| 133.33
| 14/13, 13/12, 12/11
|[[14/13]] (+5.035), [[13/12]] (−5.239),<br />[[12/11]] (−17.304)
| minor 2nd
| minor 2nd
| E
| E
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| 2
| 2
| 266.67
| 266.67
| 7/6
|[[7/6]] (−0.204)
| major 2nd, minor 3rd
| major 2nd, minor 3rd
| E#, Fb
| E♯, F♭
| minor 2nd, major 3rd
| minor 2nd, major 3rd
| Eb, F#
| E♭, F♯
|[[File:0-266,67 major 2nd, minor 3rd (9-EDO).mp3|frameless]]
|[[File:0-266,67 major 2nd, minor 3rd (9-EDO).mp3|frameless]]
|-
|-
| 3
| 3
| 400.00
| 400.00
| 5/4, 14/11, 9/7
|[[5/4]] (+13.686), [[14/11]] (−17.508),<br />[[9/7]] (−35.084)
| major 3rd
| major 3rd
| F
| F
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| 4
| 4
| 533.33
| 533.33
| 4/3, 11/8
|[[4/3]] (+35.288), [[11/8]] (−17.985)
| perfect 4th
| perfect 4th
| G
| G
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| 5
| 5
| 666.67
| 666.67
| 16/11, 3/2
|[[16/11]] (+17.985), [[3/2]] (−35.288)
| perfect 5th
| perfect 5th
| A
| A
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| 6
| 6
| 800.00
| 800.00
| 14/9, 11/7, 8/5
|[[14/9]] (+35.084) [[11/7]] (+17.508),<br />[[8/5]] (−13.686)
| minor 6th
| minor 6th
| B
| B
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| 7
| 7
| 933.33
| 933.33
| 12/7
|[[12/7]] (+0.204)
| major 6th, minor 7th
| major 6th, minor 7th
| B#, Cb
| B♯, C♭
| minor 6th, major 7th
| minor 6th, major 7th
| Bb, C#
| B♭, C♯
|[[File:0-933,33 major 6th, minor 7th (9-EDO).mp3|frameless]]
|[[File:0-933,33 major 6th, minor 7th (9-EDO).mp3|frameless]]
|-
|-
| 8
| 8
| 1066.67
| 1066.67
| 11/6, 13/7
|[[11/6]] (+17.304) [[13/7]] (−5.035)
| major 7th
| major 7th
| C
| C
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| 9
| 9
| 1200.00
| 1200.00
| 2/1
|[[2/1]]
| octave
| octave
| D
| D
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|}
|}


== Commas ==
=== Sagittal notation ===
9edo [[tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. (Note: This assumes [[val]] {{val| 9 14 21 25 31 33 }}.)
This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as [[14edo#Sagittal notation|14-EDO]].
 
<imagemap>
File:9-EDO_Sagittal.svg
desc none
rect 80 0 296 50 [[Sagittal_notation]]
rect 296 0 456 80 [https://sagittal.org#periodic-table Periodic table of EDOs with sagittal notation]
rect 20 80 296 106 [[Fractional_3-limit_notation#Bad-fifths_limma-fraction_notation |limma-fraction notation]]
default [[File:9-EDO_Sagittal.svg]]
</imagemap>
 
== Approximation to JI ==
=== Selected just intervals ===
[[File:9ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]]
 
== Regular temperament properties ==
{| class="wikitable center-4 center-5 center-6"
|-
! rowspan="2" | [[Subgroup]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Comma list]]
! rowspan="2" | [[Mapping]]
! rowspan="2" | Optimal<br />8ve stretch (¢)
! colspan="2" | Tuning error
|-
! [[TE error|Absolute]] (¢)
! [[TE simple badness|Relative]] (%)
|-
| 2.3
| {{monzo| -14 9 }}
| {{mapping| 9 14 }}
| +11.13
| 11.24
| 8.35
|-
| 2.3.5
| 27/25, 128/125
| {{mapping| 9 14 21 }}
| +5.36
| 12.18
| 9.10
|-
| 2.3.5.7
| 21/20, 36/35, 49/48
| {{mapping| 9 14 21 25 }}
| +7.20
| 11.02
| 8.21
|-
| 2.3.5.7.11
| 21/20, 33/32, 36/35, 45/44
| {{mapping| 9 14 21 25 31 }}
| +6.80
| 9.89
| 7.37
|}
 
=== Uniform maps ===
{{Uniform map|edo=9}}
 
=== Commas ===
9et [[tempering out|tempers out]] the following [[comma]]s. This assumes [[val]] {{val| 9 14 21 25 31 33 }}.


{| class="commatable wikitable center-all left-3 right-4 left-6"
{| class="commatable wikitable center-all left-3 right-4 left-6"
|-
|-
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br>Limit]]
! [[Harmonic limit|Prime<br />limit]]
! [[Ratio]]<ref>Ratios longer than 10 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints</ref>
! [[Ratio]]<ref group="note">{{rd}}</ref>
! [[Monzo]]
! [[Monzo]]
! [[Cent]]s
! [[Cent]]s
! [[Color name]]
! [[Color name]]
! Name
! Name
|-
| 3
| [[19683/16384]]
| {{monzo| -14 9 }}
| 317.59
| Lawa 2nd
| Pythagorean augmented second
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
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| 133.24
| 133.24
| Gugu
| Gugu
| Large limma
| Bug comma, large limma
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
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| 92.18
| 92.18
| Layobi
| Layobi
| Major chroma
| Mavila comma, major chroma
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
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| 41.06
| 41.06
| Trigu
| Trigu
| Diesis
| Augmented comma, lesser diesis
|-
|-
| 5
| 5
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| 48.77
| 48.77
| Rugu
| Rugu
| Septimal quartertone
| Mint comma, septimal quarter tone
|-
|-
| 7
| 7
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| 35.70
| 35.70
| Zozo
| Zozo
| Slendro diesis
| Semaphoresma, slendro diesis
|-
|-
| 7
| 7
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| 19.13
| 19.13
| Thozogu
| Thozogu
| Superleap
| Superleap comma, biome comma
|-
|-
| 13
| 13
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| Island comma
| Island comma
|}
|}
<references/>


== Linear temperaments ==
=== Rank-2 temperaments ===
9edo contains a pentatonic [[mos scale]] 2L 3s (1 3 1 3 1) – with a heptatonic extension 2L 5s (1 1 2 1 1 2 1, sometimes called "mavila" or "antidiatonic"). Indonesian pelog scales sometimes use five-tone subsets of a seven-tone superset in a similar way, and it has been suggested that Indonesian gamelan music stems from a [http://www.neuroscience-of-music.se/pelog%20historical.htm 9edo tradition].
9edo contains a pentatonic [[mos scale]] produced by stacking 4\9 of [[2L&nbsp;3s]] (1 3 1 3 1), which has a heptatonic extension, [[2L&nbsp;5s]] (1 1 2 1 1 2 1, sometimes called "mavila" or "antidiatonic").  


== JI approximation ==
You can also use 2\9, which generates mos scales of [[1L&nbsp;3s]] (3 2 2 2) and [[4L&nbsp;1s]] (2 2 2 2 1) and can be interpreted as either an extremely sharp [[bug]] scale or an extremely flat [[orwell]] one.
=== Selected just intervals ===
 
[[File:9ed2-001.svg|alt=alt : Your browser has no SVG support.]]
== Historical (and other) relevance ==
 
[[Indonesian]] pelog scales sometimes use five-tone subsets of a seven-tone superset in a similar way as the 5-tone and 7-tone mavila scale (see [[#Rank-2 temperaments|Rank-2 temperaments]]), and it has been suggested that Indonesian gamelan music stems from a [http://www.neuroscience-of-music.se/pelog%20historical.htm 9edo tradition].
 
As a division of the octave into 3<sup>2</sup> parts, i. e. a dominant position of the number 3, 9edo also has some suitability as base tuning for [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klingon Klingon] music (since the tradtional Klingon number system is also based on 3). See, for this:
 
[http://%5B%5Bhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LjcBv-OWtQ%5D%5D Levi McClain, Klingon music theory is weird]
 
== Octave stretch or compression ==
9edo's [[prime]]s 3, 7, 11 and 13 are all tuned flat, so it can benefit from [[octave stretching]].
 
Pure-octaves 9edo makes a decent 2.5.11 tuning, approximating all those three primes within 18{{c}}.
 
9edo with octaves stretched about 5{{c}}, as in [[zpi|22zpi]], makes a decent 2.7.11.13 tuning, approximating all those four primes within 17{{c}}.


[[:File:9ed2-001.svg|9ed2-001.svg]]
9edo with octaves stretched about 10{{c}}, as in [[ed12|32ed12]], makes a decent 2.3.7.11.13 tuning, approximating all those five primes within 20{{c}}.


== Diagrams ==
== Diagrams ==
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== Instruments ==
== Instruments ==
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[[File:IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|alt=IMG_2223-800x600.jpg|400px|IMG_2223-800x600.jpg]]
* Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9edo with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte)


Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9edo with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte)
* 9edo can be played on the Lumatone, see [[Lumatone mapping for 9edo]]
 
== Music ==
== Music ==
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/tencaious-chorale-9-edo-studio-version Tenacious Chorale (only movement I is in 9EDO)] by [[Stephen Weigel]]
{{Main|Music in 9edo}}
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/in-our-own-little-worlds-9-edo Zones of Lasting Novelty] (Un12 2019) by [[Stephen Weigel]]; perf. [[Hans Gunter-Lock]], [[Jacob Barton]], and Stephen Weigel
* [https://soundcloud.com/overtoneshock/gamelan-genesis-and-birth-9-edo Gamelan, Origin, Creation] by Stephen Weigel ([http://www.beostringquartet.com/ Beo String Quartet], dedicated to [[wikipedia: Lou Harrison|Lou Harrison]])
* [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/track/69 69] by [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/album/bad-musick Tabytha]
* [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/track/69-pentangled 69 Pentangled] by [https://tabytha.bandcamp.com/album/bad-musick Tabytha]


* Nocturne in 9EDO by [http://home.snafu.de/djwolf/WorksDescriptive.htm Daniel Wolf]
== See also ==
* ''[http://www.h-pi.com/mp3/Prelude9ET.mp3 Prelude in 9ET]''{{dead link}} by [[Aaron Andrew Hunt]]
* ''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20110629_fts_e_guit_9et.mp3 Improvisation for Electric Guitar in 9EDO]'' by [[Chris Vaisvil]]
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/Others/Winchester/08%20-%208.%209%20octave.mp3 Comets Over Flatland 8]{{dead link}} by [[Randy Winchester]]
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDFCsCoaUO4 Nine tones per Octave (9-EDO / 9-TET)] by [[Ivor Darreg]]
* [http://micro.soonlabel.com/9-edo/daily20111008b_gerbils_at_the_wheel_of_government.mp3 Gerbils at the Wheel of Government] by [[Chris Vaisvil]] (in 9 and 18 EDOsimultaneously)
* [http://www.seraph.it/dep/det/NewWorld.mp3 New World] by [[Carlo Serafini]] ([http://www.seraph.it/blog_files/f533be803cb9ed1efc23fc9e2db10c6f-167.html blog entry])
* [https://soundcloud.com/santiagocosentino/interdimensional-train-ride Interdimensional Train Ride by Santiago Cosentino]


== Ear training ==
=== Ear training ===
* [https://drive.google.com/a/playgroundsessions.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUamtVWEgyRFA5alU&usp=sharing#list 9edo ear-training exercises] by [[Alex Ness]].
* [https://drive.google.com/a/playgroundsessions.com/folderview?id=0BwsXD8q2VCYUamtVWEgyRFA5alU&usp=sharing#list 9edo ear-training exercises] by [[Alex Ness]].


[[Category:9edo| ]] <!-- main article -->
=== Werntz Nocturne scale ===
{{main|Werntz Nocturne scale}}
 
== Notes ==
<references group="note" />
 
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[[Category:9-tone scales]]
[[Category:Equal divisions of the octave]]
[[Category:Pelog]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Macrotonal]]

Latest revision as of 02:18, 13 February 2026

← 8edo 9edo 10edo →
Prime factorization 32
Step size 133.333 ¢ 
Fifth 5\9 (666.667 ¢)
Semitones (A1:m2) -1:2 (-133.3 ¢ : 266.7 ¢)
Consistency limit 7
Distinct consistency limit 5

9 equal divisions of the octave (abbreviated 9edo or 9ed2), also called 9-tone equal temperament (9tet) or 9 equal temperament (9et) when viewed under a regular temperament perspective, is the tuning system that divides the octave into 9 equal parts of about 133 ¢ each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of 21/9, or the 9th root of 2.

Theory

A chromatic 9edo scale on C.

9edo is the most basic tuning which supports an antidiatonic scale. Its fifth is considerably flatter than just, but still falls into the category of "fifth" despite this. 9edo is also the first edo to have distinct major and minor chords (if 5edo's tendo and arto chords are ignored).

9edo splits the octave into three parts, each representing the major third 5/4, similarly to 12edo, which is of moderate accuracy. A similarly crude approximation of 11/8 (a sharp fourth) is available at the perfect fourth of 4 steps, which means 9edo can be seen as a simple 2.5.11 system. Looking at the intervals in this subgroup, the submajor second 11/10 is tuned to 133 cents (extremely flat) and 25/22 is even worse (but still consistent); the supermajor sixth 55/32 is tuned very accurately at 933 cents (only slightly flat). Overall, 9edo is not a great system for approximating low-complexity JI intervals consistently. However, if we turn to inconsistent representations, we see quite a few options before us. In particular, the 9edo scale has the peculiar property of representing certain 7-limit intervals almost exactly, but not the harmonic 7/4 (a subminor seventh) itself (unless semaphore, which equates it with the supermajor sixth 12/7, is taken as an acceptable temperament in this tuning). A 7-limit version of 9edo goes

1: 27/25 133.238 large limma, BP small semitone

2: 7/6 266.871 septimal minor third

3: 63/50 400.108 quasi-equal major third

4: 49/36 533.742 Arabic lute acute fourth

5: 72/49 666.258 Arabic lute grave fifth

6: 100/63 799.892 quasi-equal minor sixth

7: 12/7 933.129 septimal major sixth

8: 50/27 1066.762 grave major seventh

9: 2/1 1200.000 octave

Chords such as 1/1 – 7/6 – 49/36 – 12/7 are therefore natural ones for 9edo. The above scale generates the just intonation subgroup 2.27/25.7/3, which is closely related to 9edo.

Odd harmonics

Approximation of odd harmonics in 9edo
Harmonic 3 5 7 9 11 13 15 17 19 21 23
Error Absolute (¢) -35.3 +13.7 -35.5 +62.8 -18.0 -40.5 -21.6 +28.4 -30.8 +62.6 +38.4
Relative (%) -26.5 +10.3 -26.6 +47.1 -13.5 -30.4 -16.2 +21.3 -23.1 +46.9 +28.8
Steps
(reduced)
14
(5)
21
(3)
25
(7)
29
(2)
31
(4)
33
(6)
35
(8)
37
(1)
38
(2)
40
(4)
41
(5)

Subsets and supersets

9edo is the first odd composite edo, containing 3edo as a subset.

The ennealimmal temperament contains 9edo as a subset (splitting 2/1 into 9 equal parts) and is excellent in the 7-limit. However, 9edo by itself tempers out 27/25 by patent val, rather than representing it as 1\9 like in ennealimmal, although the 9bccd val contains both the 27/25 and 7/6 representations above and therefore supports ennealimmal.

Notation

9edo can be notated with conventional notation, including the staff, note names, relative notation, etc. in two ways.

The first, melodic notation, defines sharp/flat, major/minor, and aug/dim in terms of the antidiatonic scale, such that sharp is higher pitched than flat, and major/aug is wider than minor/dim, as would be expected. Because it does not follow diatonic conventions, conventional interval arithmetic no longer works, e.g. M2 + M2 is not M3, and D + M2 is not E. Because antidiatonic is the sister scale to diatonic, you can solve this by swapping major and minor in interval arithmetic rules. Note that the notes that form chords are different from in diatonic: for example, a major chord, P1–M3–P5, is approximately 4:5:6 as would be expected, but is notated C–E♯–G on C.

Alternatively, one can essentially pretend the antidiatonic scale is a normal diatonic, meaning that sharp is lower in pitch than flat (since the "S" step is larger than the "L" step) and major/aug is narrower than minor/dim, known as harmonic notation. The primary purpose of doing this is to allow music notated in 12edo or another diatonic system to be directly translated on the fly, or to allow support for 9edo in tools that only allow chain-of-fifths notation, and it carries over the way interval arithmetic works from diatonic notation, at the cost of notating the sizes of intervals and the shapes of chords incorrectly: that is, a major chord, P1–M3–P5, is notated C–E–G on C, but is no longer ~4:5:6 (since the third is closer to a minor third).

For the sake of clarity, the first notation is commonly called melodic notation, and the second is called harmonic notation, but this is a bit of a misnomer as both preserve different features of the notation of harmony.

Comparison of notations
Notation P1–M3–P5 ~ 4:5:6 P1–M3–P5 = C–E–G on C
Diatonic No Yes
Antidiatonic Yes No

In this notation, the enharmonic unison is the augmented 2nd, e.g. E♭ to F♯.

degree cents Approximate
Ratios
Antidiatonic
Major wider than minor
Diatonic
Major narrower than minor
Audio
0 0.00 1/1 perfect unison D perfect unison D
1 133.33 14/13 (+5.035), 13/12 (−5.239),
12/11 (−17.304)
minor 2nd E major 2nd E
2 266.67 7/6 (−0.204) major 2nd, minor 3rd E♯, F♭ minor 2nd, major 3rd E♭, F♯
3 400.00 5/4 (+13.686), 14/11 (−17.508),
9/7 (−35.084)
major 3rd F minor 3rd F
4 533.33 4/3 (+35.288), 11/8 (−17.985) perfect 4th G perfect 4th G
5 666.67 16/11 (+17.985), 3/2 (−35.288) perfect 5th A perfect 5th A
6 800.00 14/9 (+35.084) 11/7 (+17.508),
8/5 (−13.686)
minor 6th B major 6th B
7 933.33 12/7 (+0.204) major 6th, minor 7th B♯, C♭ minor 6th, major 7th B♭, C♯
8 1066.67 11/6 (+17.304) 13/7 (−5.035) major 7th C minor 7th C
9 1200.00 2/1 octave D octave D

Sagittal notation

This notation uses the same sagittal sequence as 14-EDO.

Sagittal notationPeriodic table of EDOs with sagittal notationlimma-fraction notation

Approximation to JI

Selected just intervals

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Regular temperament properties

Subgroup Comma list Mapping Optimal
8ve stretch (¢)
Tuning error
Absolute (¢) Relative (%)
2.3 [-14 9 [9 14]] +11.13 11.24 8.35
2.3.5 27/25, 128/125 [9 14 21]] +5.36 12.18 9.10
2.3.5.7 21/20, 36/35, 49/48 [9 14 21 25]] +7.20 11.02 8.21
2.3.5.7.11 21/20, 33/32, 36/35, 45/44 [9 14 21 25 31]] +6.80 9.89 7.37

Uniform maps

13-limit uniform maps between 8.8 and 9.2
Min. size Max. size Wart notation Map
8.7827 8.8165 9cee 9 14 20 25 30 33]
8.8165 8.8289 9c 9 14 20 25 31 33]
8.8289 9.0530 9 9 14 21 25 31 33]
9.0530 9.0833 9f 9 14 21 25 31 34]
9.0833 9.1055 9df 9 14 21 26 31 34]
9.1055 9.1485 9def 9 14 21 26 32 34]
9.1485 9.2595 9bdef 9 15 21 26 32 34]

Commas

9et tempers out the following commas. This assumes val 9 14 21 25 31 33].

Prime
limit
Ratio[note 1] Monzo Cents Color name Name
3 19683/16384 [-14 9 317.59 Lawa 2nd Pythagorean augmented second
5 27/25 [0 3 -2 133.24 Gugu Bug comma, large limma
5 135/128 [-7 3 1 92.18 Layobi Mavila comma, major chroma
5 16875/16384 [-14 3 4 51.12 Laquadyo Negri comma
5 128/125 [7 0 -3 41.06 Trigu Augmented comma, lesser diesis
5 (14 digits) [-21 3 7 10.06 Lasepyo Semicomma
7 36/35 [2 2 -1 -1 48.77 Rugu Mint comma, septimal quarter tone
7 525/512 [-9 1 2 1 43.41 Lazoyoyo Avicennma
7 49/48 [-4 -1 0 2 35.70 Zozo Semaphoresma, slendro diesis
7 686/675 [1 -3 -2 3 27.99 Trizo-agugu Senga
7 2430/2401 [1 5 1 -4 20.79 Quadru-ayo Nuwell comma
7 1728/1715 [6 3 -1 -3 13.07 Triru-agu Orwellisma
7 225/224 [-5 2 2 -1 7.71 Ruyoyo Marvel comma
7 6144/6125 [11 1 -3 -2 5.36 Sarurutrigu Porwell comma
7 65625/65536 [-16 1 5 1 2.35 Lazoquinyo Horwell comma
7 (16 digits) [-11 -9 0 9 1.84 Tritrizo Septimal ennealimma
11 99/98 [-1 2 0 -2 1 17.58 Loruru Mothwellsma
11 121/120 [-3 -1 -1 0 2 14.37 Lologu Biyatisma
11 176/175 [4 0 -2 -1 1 9.86 Lorugugu Valinorsma
11 385/384 [-7 -1 1 1 1 4.50 Lozoyo Keenanisma
11 540/539 [2 3 1 -2 -1 3.21 Lururuyo Swetisma
13 91/90 [-1 -2 -1 1 0 1 19.13 Thozogu Superleap comma, biome comma
13 676/675 [2 -3 -2 0 0 2 2.56 Bithogu Island comma

Rank-2 temperaments

9edo contains a pentatonic mos scale produced by stacking 4\9 of 2L 3s (1 3 1 3 1), which has a heptatonic extension, 2L 5s (1 1 2 1 1 2 1, sometimes called "mavila" or "antidiatonic").

You can also use 2\9, which generates mos scales of 1L 3s (3 2 2 2) and 4L 1s (2 2 2 2 1) and can be interpreted as either an extremely sharp bug scale or an extremely flat orwell one.

Historical (and other) relevance

Indonesian pelog scales sometimes use five-tone subsets of a seven-tone superset in a similar way as the 5-tone and 7-tone mavila scale (see Rank-2 temperaments), and it has been suggested that Indonesian gamelan music stems from a 9edo tradition.

As a division of the octave into 32 parts, i. e. a dominant position of the number 3, 9edo also has some suitability as base tuning for Klingon music (since the tradtional Klingon number system is also based on 3). See, for this:

Levi McClain, Klingon music theory is weird

Octave stretch or compression

9edo's primes 3, 7, 11 and 13 are all tuned flat, so it can benefit from octave stretching.

Pure-octaves 9edo makes a decent 2.5.11 tuning, approximating all those three primes within 18 ¢.

9edo with octaves stretched about 5 ¢, as in 22zpi, makes a decent 2.7.11.13 tuning, approximating all those four primes within 17 ¢.

9edo with octaves stretched about 10 ¢, as in 32ed12, makes a decent 2.3.7.11.13 tuning, approximating all those five primes within 20 ¢.

Diagrams

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Instruments

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  • Ukulele (MicroUke 1.2) set to 9edo with 40 lb. test fishing line (by cenobyte)

Music

See also

Ear training

Werntz Nocturne scale

Notes

  1. Ratios longer than 10 digits are presented by placeholders with informative hints.