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{{Infobox regtemp | |||
| Title = Bohpier | |||
| Subgroups = 2.3.5.7, 2.3.5.7.11, 2.3.5.7.11.13 | |||
| Comma basis = [[245/243]], [[3125/3087]] (7-limit); <br>[[100/99]], [[245/243]], [[1344/1331]] (11-limit; <br>[[100/99]], [[144/143]], [[196/195]], [[275/273]]<br>(13-limit) | |||
| Edo join 1 = 41 | Edo join 2 = 49f | |||
| Mapping = 1; 13 19 23 12 14 | |||
| Generators = 12/11 | |||
| Generators tuning = 146.5 | |||
| Optimization method = CWE | |||
| MOS scales = [[1L 7s]], [[8L 1s]], [[8L 9s]], [[8L 17s]] | |||
| Odd limit 1 = 9 | Mistuning 1 = 6.53 | Complexity 1 = 25 | |||
| Odd limit 2 = 13-limit 21 | Mistuning 2 = 12.5 | Complexity 2 = 41 | |||
}} | |||
'''Bohpier''' is a [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] which can be described as the [[Bohlen–Pierce]] scale with [[2/1|octaves]]. From this strong relation it derives its name. In this temperament, like in Bohlen–Pierce, 13 generator steps give the [[3/1|3rd harmonic]], 19 give the [[5/1|5th harmonic]], and 23 give the [[7/1|7th harmonic]], [[tempering out]] the sensamagic comma ([[245/243]]) and the gariboh comma ([[3125/3087]]). The only difference is the addition of the [[period]] of an octave. | '''Bohpier''' is a [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] which can be described as the [[Bohlen–Pierce]] scale with [[2/1|octaves]]. From this strong relation it derives its name. In this temperament, like in Bohlen–Pierce, 13 generator steps give the [[3/1|3rd harmonic]], 19 give the [[5/1|5th harmonic]], and 23 give the [[7/1|7th harmonic]], [[tempering out]] the sensamagic comma ([[245/243]]) and the gariboh comma ([[3125/3087]]). The only difference is the addition of the [[period]] of an octave. | ||
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== Tunings == | == Tunings == | ||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 7-limit norm-based tunings | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained | |||
! Constrained & skewed | |||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~27/25 = 146.4741{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~27/25 = 146.4739{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~27/25 = 146.4741{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 11-limit norm-based tunings | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained | |||
! Constrained & skewed | |||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~12/11 = 146.4441{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~12/11 = 146.5009{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~12/11 = 146.5446{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
{| class="wikitable mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" | |||
|+ style="font-size: 105%; white-space: nowrap;" | 13-limit norm-based tunings | |||
|- | |||
! rowspan="2" | | |||
! colspan="3" | Euclidean | |||
|- | |||
! Constrained | |||
! Constrained & skewed | |||
! Destretched | |||
|- | |||
! Tenney | |||
| CTE: ~12/11 = 146.4006{{c}} | |||
| CWE: ~12/11 = 146.5230{{c}} | |||
| POTE: ~12/11 = 146.6027{{c}} | |||
|} | |||
[[TOP tuning|TOP generators]]: | [[TOP tuning|TOP generators]]: | ||
* 7-limit: ~2 = 1200.00000, ~27/25 = 146.47407 | * 7-limit: ~2 = 1200.00000{{c}}, ~27/25 = 146.47407{{c}} | ||
* 11-limit: ~2 = 1199.23623, ~12/11 = 146.45131 | * 11-limit: ~2 = 1199.23623{{c}}, ~12/11 = 146.45131{{c}} | ||
* 13-limit: ~2 = 1198.55643, ~12/11 = 146.42630 | * 13-limit: ~2 = 1198.55643{{c}}, ~12/11 = 146.42630{{c}} | ||
=== Tuning spectrum === | === Tuning spectrum === | ||
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! Edo<br>generator | ! Edo<br>generator | ||
! [[Eigenmonzo| | ! [[Eigenmonzo|Unchanged interval<br>(eigenmonzo)]] | ||
! Generator (¢) | ! Generator (¢) | ||
! Comments | ! Comments | ||
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* [[Lumatone mapping for bohpier]] | * [[Lumatone mapping for bohpier]] | ||
[[Category:Bohpier]] <!-- main article --> | [[Category:Bohpier]] <!-- main article --> | ||
[[Category:Rank-2 temperaments]] | |||
[[Category:Sensamagic clan]] | [[Category:Sensamagic clan]] | ||
[[Category:Gariboh clan]] | [[Category:Gariboh clan]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Canopic clan]] | ||
[[Category:Bohlen–Pierce]] | [[Category:Bohlen–Pierce]] | ||
Latest revision as of 10:30, 6 June 2026
| Bohpier |
100/99, 245/243, 1344/1331 (11-limit;
100/99, 144/143, 196/195, 275/273
(13-limit)
13-limit 21-odd-limit: 12.5 ¢
13-limit 21-odd-limit: 41 notes
Bohpier is a rank-2 temperament which can be described as the Bohlen–Pierce scale with octaves. From this strong relation it derives its name. In this temperament, like in Bohlen–Pierce, 13 generator steps give the 3rd harmonic, 19 give the 5th harmonic, and 23 give the 7th harmonic, tempering out the sensamagic comma (245/243) and the gariboh comma (3125/3087). The only difference is the addition of the period of an octave.
It is a member of sensamagic, gariboh, arcturus, and mirkwai clans. The extension to the 13-limit sees more involvement of the octave, with 14 steps giving the interval class of 11 and 12 steps giving the interval class of 13, tempering out 100/99, 144/143, 196/195, and 275/273.
Possible generators for bohpier include 1\13edt, 1\19ed5, and 1\23ed7. Another excellent tuning for the temperament is 41edo, with generator 5\41. Mos scales of 8, 9, 17, 25, or 33 notes are available.
See Sensamagic clan #Bohpier for technical data.
Interval chain
In the following table, odd harmonics 1–13 and their inverses are in bold.
| # | Cents* | Approximate ratios |
|---|---|---|
| 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 |
| 1 | 146.5 | 12/11, 13/12, 27/25 |
| 2 | 293.0 | 13/11 |
| 3 | 439.6 | 9/7 |
| 4 | 586.1 | 7/5 |
| 5 | 732.6 | 20/13 |
| 6 | 879.1 | 5/3 |
| 7 | 1025.7 | 9/5, 20/11 |
| 8 | 1172.2 | 39/20, 49/25, 55/28, 65/33, 77/39, 108/55 |
| 9 | 118.7 | 14/13, 15/14 |
| 10 | 265.2 | 7/6 |
| 11 | 411.8 | 14/11 |
| 12 | 558.3 | 11/8, 18/13 |
| 13 | 704.8 | 3/2 |
| 14 | 851.3 | 13/8, 18/11 |
| 15 | 997.8 | 25/14 |
| 16 | 1144.4 | 27/14, 35/18 |
| 17 | 90.9 | 21/20 |
| 18 | 237.4 | 15/13 |
| 19 | 383.9 | 5/4 |
| 20 | 530.4 | 15/11, 27/20 |
| 21 | 677.0 | 49/33 |
| 22 | 823.5 | 21/13 |
| 23 | 970.0 | 7/4 |
| 24 | 1116.6 | 21/11 |
| 25 | 63.1 | 25/24, 27/26, 33/32 |
* In 13-limit CWE tuning
As a detemperament of 8et
Bohpier can be considered as a cluster temperament with eight clusters of notes in an octave. The chroma interval between adjacent notes in each cluster represents 40/39 ~ 50/49 ~ 55/54 ~ 56/55 ~ 66/65 ~ 78/77 ~ 91/90 all tempered together.
| Steps | Double dim. | Diminished | Minor | Major | Augmented | Double aug. | ||||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Gen. | Cents* | Ratios | Gen. | Cents* | Ratios | Gen. | Cents* | Ratios | Gen. | Cents* | Ratios | Gen. | Cents* | Ratios | Gen. | Cents* | Ratios | |
| 0 | 0 | 0.0 | 1/1 | −8 | 27.8 | 56/55~66/65 | −16 | 55.6 | 28/27~36/35 | −24 | 83.4 | 22/21 | ||||||
| 1 | 17 | 90.9 | 21/20 | 9 | 118.7 | 14/13~15/14 | 1 | 146.5 | 12/11~13/12 | −7 | 173.3 | 10/9~11/10 | −15 | 202.2 | 28/25 | −23 | 230.0 | 8/7 |
| 2 | 18 | 237.4 | 15/13 | 10 | 265.2 | 7/6 | 2 | 293.0 | 13/11 | −6 | 320.9 | 6/5 | −14 | 348.7 | 11/9~16/13 | −22 | 376.5 | 26/21 |
| 3 | 19 | 383.9 | 5/4 | 11 | 411.8 | 14/11 | 3 | 439.6 | 9/7 | −5 | 467.4 | 13/10 | −13 | 495.2 | 4/3 | −21 | 523.0 | 66/49 |
| 4 | 20 | 530.4 | 15/11 | 12 | 558.3 | 11/8~18/13 | 4 | 586.1 | 7/5 | −4 | 613.9 | 10/7 | −12 | 641.7 | 13/9~16/11 | −20 | 669.5 | 22/15 |
| 5 | 21 | 677.0 | 49/33 | 13 | 704.8 | 3/2 | 5 | 732.6 | 20/13 | −3 | 760.4 | 14/9 | −11 | 788.2 | 11/7 | −19 | 816.1 | 8/5 |
| 6 | 22 | 823.5 | 21/13 | 14 | 851.3 | 13/8~18/11 | 6 | 879.1 | 5/3 | −2 | 907.0 | 22/13 | −10 | 934.8 | 12/7 | −18 | 962.6 | 26/15 |
| 7 | 23 | 970.0 | 7/4 | 15 | 997.8 | 25/14 | 7 | 1025.7 | 9/5~20/11 | −1 | 1053.5 | 11/6~24/13 | −9 | 1081.3 | 13/7~28/15 | −17 | 1109.1 | 40/21 |
| 8 | 24 | 1116.6 | 21/11 | 16 | 1144.4 | 27/14~35/18 | 8 | 1172.2 | 55/28~65/33 | 0 | 1200.0 | 2/1 | ||||||
* In 13-limit CWE tuning
Chords
Tunings
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Tenney | CTE: ~27/25 = 146.4741 ¢ | CWE: ~27/25 = 146.4739 ¢ | POTE: ~27/25 = 146.4741 ¢ |
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Tenney | CTE: ~12/11 = 146.4441 ¢ | CWE: ~12/11 = 146.5009 ¢ | POTE: ~12/11 = 146.5446 ¢ |
| Euclidean | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Constrained | Constrained & skewed | Destretched | |
| Tenney | CTE: ~12/11 = 146.4006 ¢ | CWE: ~12/11 = 146.5230 ¢ | POTE: ~12/11 = 146.6027 ¢ |
- 7-limit: ~2 = 1200.00000 ¢, ~27/25 = 146.47407 ¢
- 11-limit: ~2 = 1199.23623 ¢, ~12/11 = 146.45131 ¢
- 13-limit: ~2 = 1198.55643 ¢, ~12/11 = 146.42630 ¢
Tuning spectrum
| Edo generator |
Unchanged interval (eigenmonzo) |
Generator (¢) | Comments |
|---|---|---|---|
| 13/12 | 138.5727 | ||
| 3\25 | 144.0000 | 25bccddf val, lower bound of 5-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 13/11 | 144.6049 | ||
| 9/7 | 145.0280 | ||
| 9/5 | 145.3709 | ||
| 4\33 | 145.4545 | 33cd val, lower bound of 7-, 9-, 11-, and 13-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 7/5 | 145.6280 | ||
| 13/8 | 145.7520 | ||
| 11/8 | 145.9432 | ||
| 3/2 | 146.3042 | 9-odd-limit minimax | |
| 5\41 | 146.3415 | ||
| 7/4 | 146.4707 | ||
| 15/8 | 146.5084 | ||
| 15/14 | 146.6048 | ||
| 11/9 | 146.6137 | 11-odd-limit minimax | |
| 5/4 | 146.6481 | 5-, 7-, 13-, and 15-odd-limit minimax | |
| 7/6 | 146.6871 | ||
| 15/11 | 146.8475 | ||
| 6\49 | 146.9388 | 49f val, upper bound of 9-, 11-, and 13-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 13/9 | 146.9485 | ||
| 11/7 | 147.0462 | ||
| 15/13 | 147.0967 | ||
| 5/3 | 147.3931 | ||
| 13/7 | 147.5887 | ||
| 11/10 | 147.8565 | ||
| 13/10 | 149.1572 | ||
| 1\8 | 150.0000 | 8d val, upper bound of 5- and 7-odd-limit diamond monotone | |
| 11/6 | 150.6371 |
Scales
- Bohpier8 – 1L 7s scale
- Bohpier9 – 8L 1s scale
- Bohpier17 – 8L 9s scale
- Bohpier25 – 8L 17s scale
- Bohpier33 – 8L 25s scale