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If there were a rigorous algorithm for finding the "best" ratio for a certain edostep, then the resulting scale could be *the* yaza19 (or whatever) scale. But one can prioritize minimizing the odd limit vs. maximizing the accuracy differently. Thus there are multiple plausible yaza19 scales, and "yaza19" would refer to a category of scales, not just one. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | If there were a rigorous algorithm for finding the "best" ratio for a certain edostep, then the resulting scale could be *the* yaza19 (or whatever) scale. But one can prioritize minimizing the odd limit vs. maximizing the accuracy differently. Thus there are multiple plausible yaza19 scales, and "yaza19" would refer to a category of scales, not just one. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:28, 28 October 2024 (UTC) | ||
== Colorspeak tensome == | |||
Colorspeak's easy and colorspeak's pretty<br> | |||
Colorspeak's pithy/pyth-y and colorspeak's witty<br> | |||
Even if people insist otherwise,<br> | |||
Colorspeak is a delight to my eyes || 1 ||<br> | |||
Color notation is fit for the sages,<br> | |||
Simple and easy and good for all ages,<br> | |||
Colorspeak makes it clear what music is,<br> | |||
Learning it makes you a harmony whiz || 2 || | |||
Porcupine, magic, vavoom and mavila,<br> | |||
Meantone and schismic and bleu and godzilla,<br> | |||
Temperament names with no logic or rhyme,<br> | |||
Learning all those takes up way too much time || 3 || | |||
I wanted to find out the perfect notation,<br> | |||
I made many friends with the same dedication,<br> | |||
The prospects were looking so terribly bleak,<br> | |||
Till one day I stumbled upon colorspeak || 4 || | |||
Colorspeak helps us pursue meditation,<br> | |||
Nothing's effective like color notation,<br> | |||
My favorite yoga pose beats out the rest<br> | |||
Yazalathasana's simply the best || 5 || | |||
Cherries make every fruit salad more pleasant,<br> | |||
Roses and orchids enrich every present<br> | |||
Honeymoon nights are enriched by the moon,<br> | |||
Color enriches the score of my tune || 6 || | |||
If you're a choral or barbershop singer,<br> | |||
And you're not sure, on what pitch you should linger,<br> | |||
Common notation will not give a clue,<br> | |||
But color notation will truly help you || 7 || | |||
Color notation is great for conductors,<br> | |||
Musical theorists and college instructors,<br> | |||
No fuss over pental and septimal thirds,<br> | |||
Colorspeak has much more elegant words || 8 || | |||
Learning two new words is all you need to do,<br> | |||
Yazalathasana, followed by guru,<br> | |||
To notate harmonics, turn a into o,<br> | |||
That's almost all that a guru must know || 9 || | |||
If you're confused about music notation,<br> | |||
These ten little stanzas will ease your frustration,<br> | |||
Notational matters will not leave you stressed,<br> | |||
'Cause color notation is simply the best || 10 || | |||
-- Praveen Venkataramana (2024) | |||
--[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 20:46, 8 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Proposals == | |||
Seeing how the consonants only really apply for primes up to 11, maybe take this a step further and go all in with the consonants. Up to the 31-limit possibly. Note that I have no synesthesia so it is as meaningless for me to call 5/4 yellow as it is to say that the sun smells like honesty, so I'm just picking consonants and colors at random, if any at all. Apart from that, with these new color consonants, you should avoid any homophones. I think. I ''had'' to put e, thorn and eth, I was running out of consonants... | |||
If the 31-limit is way too excessive, then possibly the 13-limit could be enough. I don't know how system-breaking would all of this be, just putting it on the table to see if anything sticks. | |||
* large/small: o/u (since they come at the beginning no problems, reusing over/under) | |||
* 2: cha/cho/(chu) [c] (to avoid homophony with /k/) | |||
* 3: wa/wo/du [w/d] | |||
* 5: ya/yo/gu [y/g] | |||
* 7: za/zo/ru [z/g] | |||
* 11: ma/mo/lu [m/L] (mo comes from ''mahogany'' or Spanish ''morado'') | |||
* 13: tha/tho/tu [þ/t] (tu comes from ''turquoise'') | |||
* 17: xa/xo/su [x/s] (xo comes from Nahuatl xochitl, pink? pronounced /ʃ/) | |||
* 19: va/vo/nu [v/n] (v comes from ''violet'') | |||
* 23: ja/jo/hu [j/h] (no idea) | |||
* 29: ka/ko/eu [k/e] (no idea, e not a consonant) | |||
* 31: dha/dho/fu [ð/f] (not a color but from ''dhirtee'', thirty in Yola pronounced /ð/, f no idea) | |||
* +/- degrees stay po/qu, but the qu would be pronounced /kwə/ | |||
For multipliers: | |||
I think adopting more could be helpful, to make more use out of vowels | |||
* bi (2) | |||
* tri (3) | |||
* qua (4) | |||
* quin (5) | |||
* he (6) | |||
* se (7) | |||
* ho (8) | |||
* ni (9) | |||
* ge (10) | |||
* le (11) | |||
* the (13) | |||
* xe (17) | |||
* ve (19) | |||
* je (23) | |||
* ke (29) | |||
* dhe (31) | |||
Examples: | |||
* 9801/9800: bimorugu comma, mmrrgg1 | |||
* 4096/4095: uturugu comma, utrg1 | |||
* Schisma: oyo comma, oy-2 | |||
* Chalmersia: othotholurugugu comma, oþþlrgg1 | |||
* 19/17: vosu second, vs2 | |||
* 29/23: koju third, kj3 | |||
* Vavoom comma: quinoxeyo comma, o<sup>5</sup>y<sup>17</sup>-7 | |||
* 633556/633555: nunuxotutrimo-azogu comma, nnxtm<sup>3</sup>zg1 | |||
* 5797/5796: dhohuxomoru comma, ðjxmr-2 | |||
--[[User:Eufalesio|Eufalesio]] ([[User talk:Eufalesio|talk]]) 19:35, 15 March 2026 (UTC) | |||
: Eufalasio and I discussed this privately. My opinion is that ma/xa/va/ja etc. are too much work to memorize. Likewise he/se/ho/ni etc. We agreed it would be nice to have a one-syllable word for sixfold, but couldn't come up with anything good that didn't conflict with sevenfold and seventeenfold. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 05:02, 28 March 2026 (UTC) | |||