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[[Orwell]] has multiple competing [[extension]]s to the [[13-limit]]. This is evidenced by the fact that its [[support]]ing [[equal temperament]]s, [[22edo|22]] and [[31edo|31]], do less well in the 13-limit. The extensions are:  
[[Orwell]] has multiple competing [[extension]]s to the [[13-limit]]. This is evidenced by the fact that its [[support]]ing [[equal temperament]]s, [[22edo|22]] and [[31edo|31]], do less well in the 13-limit. The extensions are:  
* '''Tridecimal orwell''' ({{nowrap| 22 & 31 }}) – tempering out 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, and 275/273
* '''Tridecimal orwell''' ({{nowrap| 22 & 31 }}) – tempering out 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, and 275/273
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Latest revision as of 13:20, 2 March 2026

Orwell has multiple competing extensions to the 13-limit. This is evidenced by the fact that its supporting equal temperaments, 22 and 31, do less well in the 13-limit. The extensions are:

  • Tridecimal orwell (22 & 31) – tempering out 99/98, 121/120, 176/175, and 275/273
  • Blair (22 & 31f) – tempering out 65/64, 78/77, 91/90, and 99/98
  • Winston (22f & 31) – tempering out 66/65, 99/98, 105/104, and 121/120

The most important of these is tridecimal orwell, which tempers out 352/351 and may also be characterized by tempering out 275/273 instead. Supported by 53, it has the highest accuracy in its approximation of 13/8, but also the highest complexity. The other two extensions have lower complexity, but also lower accuracy. In winston, ~13/8 is conflated with ~18/11 and is generally tuned worse than in 31edo as a result of an improved ~18/11. In blair, ~13/8 is conflated with ~8/5 and is generally tuned worse than in 22edo as a result of an improved ~8/5.

Another possible path which relates a sense of compromise is to temper out 169/168, leading to doublethink. This has the effect of slicing the generator in two, and is supported by 44, 53, and 62.

See Semicomma family #Orwell, #Blair, and #Winston for technical data.

Interval chain

Odd harmonics 1–21 and their inverses are in bold.

# Cents* Approximate ratios
11-limit 13-limit extensions
Tridecimal orwell Winston Blair
0 0.00 1/1
1 271.46 7/6 13/11, 15/13
2 542.91 11/8, 15/11 18/13 35/26, 39/28
3 814.37 8/5 21/13, 52/33 13/8
4 1085.82 15/8, 28/15 13/7 24/13
5 157.28 12/11, 11/10, 35/32 13/12 14/13
6 428.73 14/11, 9/7, 32/25 13/10, 33/26
7 700.19 3/2 52/35
8 971.64 7/4 26/15
9 43.10 49/48, 36/35, 33/32 40/39 27/26 26/25
10 314.55 6/5 13/11 39/32
11 586.01 7/5 39/28 18/13
12 857.46 18/11 64/39 13/8 21/13
13 1128.92 21/11, 27/14, 48/25 25/13 39/20
14 200.37 9/8, 28/25
15 471.83 21/16 13/10
16 743.28 49/32, 54/35 20/13
17 1014.74 9/5
18 86.19 21/20 26/25 27/26
19 357.65 27/22, 49/40 16/13 39/32
20 629.10 36/25 56/39
21 900.56 27/16, 42/25 22/13
22 1172.01 63/32 39/20

* in 11-limit CWE tuning

Tuning spectra

These spectra suggest possible tuning choices. For 13-limit orwell, the 5-limit minimax tuning featuring pure 5/3 eigenmonzos seems like an excellent choice, as it is right in the middle of the least squares range and very close to 13-limit least squares. Pure 13's, using the 13/8 eigenmonzo, might also please some people. For blair, pure 5/4's using the 5/4 eigenmonzo tuning is very close to 15-odd-limit least squares and in general in the middle of the action. For winston, sticking with the 11/9 eigenmonzo minimax tuning seems reasonable.

Tridecimal orwell

Edo
generators
Unchanged interval
(eigenmonzo)
Generator (¢) Comments
7/6 266.871
15/11 268.475
11/7 269.585
11/6 270.127
15/14 270.139
7\31 270.968 Lower bound of 9- to 15-odd-limit diamond monotone
11/9 271.049
7/4 271.103
7/5 271.137
5/4 271.229
1361367/1000000 271.326 7-odd-limit least squares
13/7 271.418 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax
19\84 271.429 84e val
[0 119 -46 20 -16 271.445 11-odd-limit least squares
13/8 271.551
[0 90 -41 14 271.561 9-odd-limit least squares
5/3 271.564 5-odd-limit minimax
[0 -211 30 -47 -5 142 271.567 13-odd-limit least squares
[0 -236 5 -51 -3 165 271.570 15-odd-limit least squares
1220703125/1033121304 271.590 5-odd-limit least squares
13/12 271.593
13/10 271.612
13/9 271.618
9/5 271.623 9-odd-limit minimax
15/13 271.641
12\53 271.698 Upper bound of 9- to 15-odd-limit diamond monotone
3/2 271.708
13/11 271.942
15/8 272.067
9/7 272.514
5\22 272.727
11/10 273.001
11/8 275.659

Winston

Edo
generators
Unchanged interval
(eigenmonzo)
Generator (¢) Comments
7/6 266.871
13/12 267.715
13/7 267.925
15/11 268.475
13/11 268.921
15/13 269.032
11/7 269.585
13/8 270.044
11/6 270.127
15/14 270.139
13/10 270.281
[0 112 -67 20 -28 52 270.860 15-odd-limit least squares
[0 118 -61 16 -26 44 270.933 13-odd-limit least squares
7\31 270.968 Lower bound of 9- to 15-odd-limit diamond monotone
11/9 271.049 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax
7/4 271.103
7/5 271.137
5/4 271.229
1361367/1000000 271.326 7-odd-limit least squares
19\84 271.429 84eff val
[0 119 -46 20 -16 271.445 11-odd-limit least squares
[0 90 -41 14 271.561 9-odd-limit least squares
5/3 271.564 5-odd-limit minimax
1220703125/1033121304 271.590 5-odd-limit least squares
9/5 271.623 9-odd-limit minimax
12\53 271.698 53f val
3/2 271.708
15/8 272.067
9/7 272.514
5\22 272.727 22f val, upper bound of 9- to 15-odd-limit diamond monotone
11/10 273.001
11/8 275.659
13/9 281.691

Blair

Edo
generators
Unchanged interval
(eigenmonzo)
Generator (¢) Comments
15/13 247.741
13/12 265.357
13/7 265.660
7/6 266.871
15/11 268.475
13/9 269.398
11/7 269.585
11/6 270.127
15/14 270.139
7\31 270.968 31f val
11/9 271.049
7/4 271.103
7/5 271.137 7-, 11-, 13- and 15-odd-limit minimax
5/4 271.229
[0 148 -49 29 -19 -11 271.231 15-odd-limit least squares
[0 145 -52 25 -17 -10 271.261 13-odd-limit least squares
1361367/1000000 271.326 7-odd-limit least squares
19\84 271.429 84efff val
[0 119 -46 20 -16 271.445 11-odd-limit least squares
[0 90 -41 14 271.561 9-odd-limit least squares
5/3 271.564 5-odd-limit minimax
1220703125/1033121304 271.590 5-odd-limit least squares
9/5 271.623 9-odd-limit minimax
12\53 271.698 53ff val
3/2 271.708
15/8 272.067
9/7 272.514
5\22 272.727
11/10 273.001
11/8 275.659
13/10 275.702
13/8 280.176
13/11 289.210