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The '''pental family''' tempers out the [[pental comma]], 847288609443/838860800000 = {{monzo| -28 25 -5 }}.
{{Technical data page}}
The '''quintile family''' of [[regular temperament|temperaments]] [[tempering out|tempers out]] the [[quintile comma]] ({{monzo|legend=1| -28 25 -5 }}, [[ratio]]: 847 288 609 443 / 838 860 800 000).
 
== Quintile ==
Quintile reaches the interval class of 5 by five [[3/2|perfect fifths]] (i.e. a major seventh) plus two periods of 1/5-octave; this two-period interval represents a grave fourth of [[320/243]], that is, a [[4/3|perfect fourth]] minus a [[81/80|syntonic comma]]. Quintile is a member of the [[syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum]] with {{nowrap| ''n'' {{=}} 5 }}, so it equates a [[256/243|Pythagorean limma]] with a stack of five [[81/80|syntonic commas]].
 
The temperament was first introduced by [[Mike Battaglia]] in 2011 along with other temperaments in the continuum mentioned above<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_99315.html#99323 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Some new 5-limit microtemperaments'']</ref>. It did not get named until 2012, when [[Petr Pařízek]] called it ''pental''<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_104270.html Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''2D temperaments, part II -- new 5-limit temperaments'']</ref>. In 2024, the community has decided to rename it for fear of confusion with the more common usage of the term ''pental'' to refer to the [[5-limit]].  


== Pental ==
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5


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: mapping generators: ~59049/51200, ~3
: mapping generators: ~59049/51200, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~59049/51200 = 1\5, ~3/2 = 701.210
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~59049/51200 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.317 (~81/80 = 18.683)
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 -0.638 +0.274 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~59049/51200 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.210 (~81/80 = 18.790)
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.745 -0.265 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 60, 65, 190, 255, 575, 830b, 1405b }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 60, 65, 190, 255, 575, 830b, 1405b }}


[[Badness]]: 0.240050
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.240050


== Septimal pental ==
== Pentacloud ==
The pental temperament can be described as 5&amp;60 temperament (also known as ''pentacloud''), tempering out the [[cloudy comma]], 16807/16384 and the [[245/243|sensamagic comma]], 245/243 in the 7-limit.
Pentacloud can be described as the 5 & 60 temperament. It identifies the period as ~8/7, tempering out the [[cloudy comma]] 16807/16384 and the [[245/243|sensamagic comma]] 245/243 in the 7-limit.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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[[Comma list]]: 245/243, 16807/16384
[[Comma list]]: 245/243, 16807/16384


{{Mapping|legend=1| 5 0 -28 14 |0 1 5 0 }}
{{Mapping|legend=1| 5 0 -28 14 | 0 1 5 0 }}


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~8/7 = 1\5, ~3/2 = 700.548
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.317 (~81/80 = 18.683)
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 -0.638 +0.274 -8.826 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 700.548 (~81/80 = 19.452)
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -1.407 -3.574 -8.826 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 60, 65, 125d, 185cdd }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 60, 65, 125d, 185cdd }}


[[Badness]]: 0.120942
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.120942


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 14 49 | 0 1 5 0 -4 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 14 49 | 0 1 5 0 -4 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 1\5, ~3/2 = 701.377
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.496 (~81/80 = 18.304)
* POTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.377 (~81/80 = 18.623)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 60, 65 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 60, 65 }}


Badness: 0.093248
Badness (Smith): 0.093248


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 14 49 -29 | 0 1 5 0 -4 6 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 14 49 -29 | 0 1 5 0 -4 6 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 1\5, ~3/2 = 700.996
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.085 (~81/80 = 18.915)
* POTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 700.996 (~81/80 = 19.004)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 5, 60, 65, 125de, 190ddef }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 5, 60, 65, 125de, 190ddef }}


Badness: 0.067549
Badness (Smith): 0.067549


== Hemipental ==
== Hemiquintile ==
The ''hemipental'' temperament (125 &amp; 130) tempers out the cataharry comma, 19683/19600 in the 7-limit, as well as 589824/588245 ([[Hewuermera temperaments|hewuermera]], satribiru-agu) and 5250987/5242880 ([[Mitonismic temperaments|mitonisma]], laquadzo-agu).
Hemiquintile (formerly ''hemipental'') can be described as 125 & 130 and tempers out the cataharry comma, 19683/19600 in the 7-limit, as well as 589824/588245 ([[hewuermera temperaments|hewuermera]], satribiru-agu) and 5250987/5242880 ([[mitonismic temperaments|mitonisma]], laquadzo-agu).


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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: mapping generators: ~147/128, ~140/81
: mapping generators: ~147/128, ~140/81


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~147/128 = 1\5, ~140/81 = 950.6536 (~1029/1024 = 9.3464)
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6620 (~1029/1024 = 9.3380)
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 -0.6311 +0.3059 +0.5121 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6536 (~1029/1024 = 9.3464)
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.6473 +0.2249 +0.5202 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 125, 130, 255, 385 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 125, 130, 255, 385 }}


[[Badness]]: 0.104163
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.104163


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 18 -54 | 0 2 10 -1 18 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 18 -54 | 0 2 10 -1 18 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~147/128 = 1\5, ~140/81 = 950.6341 (~176/175 = 9.3659)
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6430 (~176/175 = 9.3570)
* POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6341 (~176/175 = 9.3659)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 125, 130, 255, 385, 640 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 125, 130, 255, 385, 640 }}


Badness: 0.047624
Badness (Smith): 0.047624


==== Hemipent ====
==== Hemiquintilis ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 540/539, 1575/1573, 4096/4095, 8019/8000
Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 676/675, 124215/123904


Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 18 -54 34 | 0 2 10 -1 18 -13 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 18 -54 34 | 0 2 10 -1 18 13 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~147/128 = 1\5, ~140/81 = 950.6677 (~144/143 = 9.3323)
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~26/15 = 950.6775 (~176/175 = 9.3225)
* POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~26/15 = 950.6593 (~176/175 = 9.3407)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 125, 130, 255, 385, 515 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 125f, 130, 255f, 385f }}


Badness: 0.041043
Badness (Smith): 0.033542


==== Hemipentalis ====
==== Hemiquint ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 676/675, 124215/123904
Comma list: 540/539, 1575/1573, 4096/4095, 8019/8000


Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 18 -54 34 | 0 2 10 -1 18 13 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 5 0 -28 18 -54 34 | 0 2 10 -1 18 -13 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~147/128 = 1\5, ~26/15 = 950.6593 (~176/175 = 9.3407)
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6607 (~144/143 = 9.3393)
* POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6677 (~144/143 = 9.3323)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 125f, 130, 255f, 385f }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 125, 130, 255, 385, 515 }}


Badness: 0.033542
Badness (Smith): 0.041043


== Decal ==
== Decile ==
The decal temperament (130 &amp; 190) tempers out the varunisma, 321489/320000 in the 7-limit, as well as 235298/234375 (triwellisma, tribizo-asepgu), 2460375/2458624 ([[2460375/2458624|breeze comma]], laquadru-atriyo), and the [[15/14 equal-step tuning|linus comma]], {{monzo| 11 -10 -10 10 }}.
Decile (formerly ''decal'') can be described as 130 & 190 and tempers out the [[varunisma]] 321489/320000 in the 7-limit, as well as the [[triwellisma]] 235298/234375, the [[breeze comma]] 2460375/2458624, and the [[linus comma]] {{monzo| 11 -10 -10 10 }}.


[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.5.7
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: mapping generators: ~15/14, ~3
: mapping generators: ~15/14, ~3


[[Optimal tuning]] ([[POTE]]): ~15/14 = 1\10, ~3/2 = 701.303
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.390 (~81/80 = 18.610)
: [[error map]]: {{val| 0.000 -0.565 +0.639 -0.483 }}
* [[POTE]]: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.303 (~81/80 = 18.697)
: error map: {{val| 0.000 -0.652 +0.200 -1.009 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 60, 130, 320, 450, 770d }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 60, 130, 320, 450, 770d }}


[[Badness]]: 0.104859
[[Badness]] (Smith): 0.104859


=== 11-limit ===
=== 11-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 10 0 -56 -67 -108 | 0 1 5 6 9 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 10 0 -56 -67 -108 | 0 1 5 6 9 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~15/14 = 1\10, ~3/2 = 701.240
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.336 (~99/98 = 18.664)
* POTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.240 (~99/98 = 18.760)


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 60e, 130, 190, 320 }}
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 60e, 130, 190, 320 }}


Badness: 0.040633
Badness (Smith): 0.040633


=== 13-limit ===
=== 13-limit ===
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Mapping: {{mapping| 10 0 -56 -67 -108 37 | 0 1 5 6 9 0 }}
Mapping: {{mapping| 10 0 -56 -67 -108 37 | 0 1 5 6 9 0 }}


Optimal tuning (POTE): ~15/14 = 1\10, ~3/2 = 701.252
Optimal tunings:
* CTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.336 (~91/90 = 18.664)
* POTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.252 (~91/90 = 18.748)
 
{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=0| 60e, 130, 190, 320 }}


{{Optimal ET sequence|legend=1| 60e, 130, 190, 320 }}
Badness (Smith): 0.023948


Badness: 0.023948
== Notes ==


[[Category:Temperament families]]
[[Category:Temperament families]]
[[Category:Pental family| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Quintile family| ]] <!-- main article -->
[[Category:Pental| ]] <!-- key article -->
[[Category:Quintile| ]] <!-- key article -->
[[Category:Rank 2]]

Latest revision as of 12:17, 27 November 2025

This is a list showing technical temperament data. For an explanation of what information is shown here, you may look at the technical data guide for regular temperaments.

The quintile family of temperaments tempers out the quintile comma (monzo: [-28 25 -5⟩, ratio: 847 288 609 443 / 838 860 800 000).

Quintile

Quintile reaches the interval class of 5 by five perfect fifths (i.e. a major seventh) plus two periods of 1/5-octave; this two-period interval represents a grave fourth of 320/243, that is, a perfect fourth minus a syntonic comma. Quintile is a member of the syntonic–diatonic equivalence continuum with n = 5, so it equates a Pythagorean limma with a stack of five syntonic commas.

The temperament was first introduced by Mike Battaglia in 2011 along with other temperaments in the continuum mentioned above[1]. It did not get named until 2012, when Petr Pařízek called it pental[2]. In 2024, the community has decided to rename it for fear of confusion with the more common usage of the term pental to refer to the 5-limit.

Subgroup: 2.3.5

Comma list: 847288609443/838860800000

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28], ⟨0 1 5]]

mapping generators: ~59049/51200, ~3

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~59049/51200 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.317 (~81/80 = 18.683)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.638 +0.274]
  • POTE: ~59049/51200 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.210 (~81/80 = 18.790)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.745 -0.265]

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 60, 65, 190, 255, 575, 830b, 1405b

Badness (Smith): 0.240050

Pentacloud

Pentacloud can be described as the 5 & 60 temperament. It identifies the period as ~8/7, tempering out the cloudy comma 16807/16384 and the sensamagic comma 245/243 in the 7-limit.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 245/243, 16807/16384

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 14], ⟨0 1 5 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.317 (~81/80 = 18.683)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.638 +0.274 -8.826]
  • POTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 700.548 (~81/80 = 19.452)
error map: ⟨0.000 -1.407 -3.574 -8.826]

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 60, 65, 125d, 185cdd

Badness (Smith): 0.120942

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 245/243, 385/384, 3087/3025

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 14 49], ⟨0 1 5 0 -4]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.496 (~81/80 = 18.304)
  • POTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.377 (~81/80 = 18.623)

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 60, 65

Badness (Smith): 0.093248

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 105/104, 144/143, 245/243, 3087/3025

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 14 49 -29], ⟨0 1 5 0 -4 6]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 701.085 (~81/80 = 18.915)
  • POTE: ~8/7 = 240.000, ~3/2 = 700.996 (~81/80 = 19.004)

Optimal ET sequence: 5, 60, 65, 125de, 190ddef

Badness (Smith): 0.067549

Hemiquintile

Hemiquintile (formerly hemipental) can be described as 125 & 130 and tempers out the cataharry comma, 19683/19600 in the 7-limit, as well as 589824/588245 (hewuermera, satribiru-agu) and 5250987/5242880 (mitonisma, laquadzo-agu).

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 19683/19600, 589824/588245

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 18], ⟨0 2 10 -1]]

mapping generators: ~147/128, ~140/81

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6620 (~1029/1024 = 9.3380)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.6311 +0.3059 +0.5121]
  • POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6536 (~1029/1024 = 9.3464)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.6473 +0.2249 +0.5202]

Optimal ET sequence: 125, 130, 255, 385

Badness (Smith): 0.104163

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 540/539, 8019/8000, 180224/180075

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 18 -54], ⟨0 2 10 -1 18]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6430 (~176/175 = 9.3570)
  • POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6341 (~176/175 = 9.3659)

Optimal ET sequence: 125, 130, 255, 385, 640

Badness (Smith): 0.047624

Hemiquintilis

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 351/350, 540/539, 676/675, 124215/123904

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 18 -54 34], ⟨0 2 10 -1 18 13]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~26/15 = 950.6775 (~176/175 = 9.3225)
  • POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~26/15 = 950.6593 (~176/175 = 9.3407)

Optimal ET sequence: 125f, 130, 255f, 385f

Badness (Smith): 0.033542

Hemiquint

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 540/539, 1575/1573, 4096/4095, 8019/8000

Mapping: [⟨5 0 -28 18 -54 34], ⟨0 2 10 -1 18 -13]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6607 (~144/143 = 9.3393)
  • POTE: ~147/128 = 240.0000, ~140/81 = 950.6677 (~144/143 = 9.3323)

Optimal ET sequence: 125, 130, 255, 385, 515

Badness (Smith): 0.041043

Decile

Decile (formerly decal) can be described as 130 & 190 and tempers out the varunisma 321489/320000 in the 7-limit, as well as the triwellisma 235298/234375, the breeze comma 2460375/2458624, and the linus comma [11 -10 -10 10⟩.

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7

Comma list: 235298/234375, 321489/320000

Mapping: [⟨10 0 -56 -67], ⟨0 1 5 6]]

mapping generators: ~15/14, ~3

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.390 (~81/80 = 18.610)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.565 +0.639 -0.483]
  • POTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.303 (~81/80 = 18.697)
error map: ⟨0.000 -0.652 +0.200 -1.009]

Optimal ET sequence: 60, 130, 320, 450, 770d

Badness (Smith): 0.104859

11-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11

Comma list: 441/440, 8019/8000, 234375/234256

Mapping: [⟨10 0 -56 -67 -108], ⟨0 1 5 6 9]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.336 (~99/98 = 18.664)
  • POTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.240 (~99/98 = 18.760)

Optimal ET sequence: 60e, 130, 190, 320

Badness (Smith): 0.040633

13-limit

Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 441/440, 729/728, 1001/1000, 4225/4224

Mapping: [⟨10 0 -56 -67 -108 37], ⟨0 1 5 6 9 0]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.336 (~91/90 = 18.664)
  • POTE: ~15/14 = 120.000, ~3/2 = 701.252 (~91/90 = 18.748)

Optimal ET sequence: 60e, 130, 190, 320

Badness (Smith): 0.023948

Notes

  1. ↑ Yahoo! Tuning Group | Some new 5-limit microtemperaments
  2. ↑ Yahoo! Tuning Group | 2D temperaments, part II -- new 5-limit temperaments
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