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::Thank you Fredg999!

::* I believe the most common usage of the [-1, 0, -1] vector notation that I've encountered is as exponents of primes in JI, which I just now found named as "prime factor notation" [http://tonalsoft.com/monzo/article/article.htm here]. Perhaps a one-paragraph section called "Prime factor notation" in the [[Prime number]] article would be appropriate to document this and add a link to it on the disambiguation page?

::* I believe the most common usage of the [-1, 0, -1] vector notation that I've encountered is as exponents of primes in JI, which I just now found named as "prime factor notation" [http://tonalsoft.com/monzo/article/article.htm here]. Perhaps a one-paragraph section called "Prime factor notation" in the [[Prime number]] article would be appropriate to document this and add a link to it on the disambiguation page? [[User:Mousemambo|Mousemambo]] ([[User talk:Mousemambo|talk]]) 08:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

:::Looking deeper, I now believe that a description of prime factor notation would best belong in the article [[Harmonic limit]] rather than Prime number as I suggested first. But see FloraC's comment below -- I need to study further. [[User:Mousemambo|Mousemambo]] ([[User talk:Mousemambo|talk]]) 19:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

::* I will stay alert for any usages of notation for a list of scale degrees, in square brackets or otherwise. The proper musicological notation for "scale degree" would put a caret (aka circumflex accent) over each number, but that's an unusual character to type and is without a standard for HTML display or a useful Unicode coding (there's no way to put a caret over an eleven). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_(music) Wikipedia:Degree music#Major and minor scales] uses SVG graphics for them. Specialized music fonts (e.g. [http://hindson.com.au/info/free/free-fonts-available-for-download/ Free music fonts]) work in some conditions are not a good solution for a wiki. If there doesn't seem to be a "set of scale degrees" standard, we could lead by example, by including it in the list of notations, but I agree it should be omitted for now. [[User:Mousemambo|Mousemambo]] ([[User talk:Mousemambo|talk]]) 08:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

::: I think the form like "[-1, 0, -1]" is still monzo notation. It just doesn't go with the stylistic choice of bra-kets, but the contents are exactly the same, tho it should be [-1, 0, -1]<sup>T</sup>, with the transpose symbol. Sintel's temp finder uses exactly this form. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

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 ::Thank you Fredg999!
-::* I believe the most common usage of the [-1, 0, -1] vector notation that I've encountered is as exponents of primes in JI, which I just now found named as "prime factor notation" [http://tonalsoft.com/monzo/article/article.htm here]. Perhaps a one-paragraph section called "Prime factor notation" in the [[Prime number]] article would be appropriate to document this and add a link to it on the disambiguation page?
+::* I believe the most common usage of the [-1, 0, -1] vector notation that I've encountered is as exponents of primes in JI, which I just now found named as "prime factor notation" [http://tonalsoft.com/monzo/article/article.htm here]. Perhaps a one-paragraph section called "Prime factor notation" in the [[Prime number]] article would be appropriate to document this and add a link to it on the disambiguation page? [[User:Mousemambo|Mousemambo]] ([[User talk:Mousemambo|talk]]) 08:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
+:::Looking deeper, I now believe that a description of prime factor notation would best belong in the article [[Harmonic limit]] rather than Prime number as I suggested first. But see FloraC's comment below -- I need to study further. [[User:Mousemambo|Mousemambo]] ([[User talk:Mousemambo|talk]]) 19:51, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
 ::* I will stay alert for any usages of notation for a list of scale degrees, in square brackets or otherwise. The proper musicological notation for "scale degree" would put a caret (aka circumflex accent) over each number, but that's an unusual character to type and is without a standard for HTML display or a useful Unicode coding (there's no way to put a caret over an eleven). [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_(music) Wikipedia:Degree music#Major and minor scales] uses SVG graphics for them. Specialized music fonts (e.g. [http://hindson.com.au/info/free/free-fonts-available-for-download/ Free music fonts]) work in some conditions are not a good solution for a wiki. If there doesn't seem to be a "set of scale degrees" standard, we could lead by example, by including it in the list of notations, but I agree it should be omitted for now. [[User:Mousemambo|Mousemambo]] ([[User talk:Mousemambo|talk]]) 08:10, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
+::: I think the form like "[-1, 0, -1]" is still monzo notation. It just doesn't go with the stylistic choice of bra-kets, but the contents are exactly the same, tho it should be [-1, 0, -1]<sup>T</sup>, with the transpose symbol. Sintel's temp finder uses exactly this form. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:53, 2 October 2023 (UTC)