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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Name = small septendecimal major seventh
| Name = septendecimal major seventh, septendecimal diminished octave
| Color name = 17u7, su 7th
| Color name = 17u7, su 7th
| Sound = jid_32_17_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_32_17_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
}}
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In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''32/17''' is the '''small septendecimal major seventh''', as well as the 17th [[subharmonic]] octave-reduced. Measuring about 1095{{cent}}, it is the [[mediant]] between [[15/8]] and [[17/9]], the "large septendecimal major seventh". Its inversion is [[17/16]], the "large septendecimal semitone".
In [[17-limit]] [[just intonation]], '''32/17''' is the '''septendecimal major seventh''' or the '''septendecimal diminished octave''', depending on how one views it. It is also the octave-reduced 17th [[subharmonic]]. Its inversion is [[17/16]], the octave-reduced 17th harmonic. Measuring about 1095{{cent}}, it is the [[mediant]] between [[15/8]] and [[17/9]].  


There exists a disagreement in different notation systems on whether 32/17 should be notated as a major seventh or a diminished octave. In the [[Functional Just System]], it is a major seventh, whereas in [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], it is a diminished octave.  
== Terminology and notation ==
There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 32/17 should be a major seventh or a diminished octave. The major seventh view corresponds to [[Functional Just System]], with the formal comma [[4131/4096]] separating it from [[243/128]], the Pythagorean major seventh. The diminished octave view corresponds to [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation]], with the formal comma [[2187/2176]] separating it from [[4096/2187]], the Pythagorean diminished octave.
 
In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded [[circle-of-fifths notation]] is to prepare a [[Pythagorean comma]] accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.


== See also ==
== See also ==
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[[Category:Seventh]]
[[Category:Seventh]]
[[Category:Major seventh]]
[[Category:Major seventh]]
[[Category:Octave]]
[[Category:Diminished octave]]

Latest revision as of 09:37, 12 January 2023

Interval information
Ratio 32/17
Subgroup monzo 2.17 [5 -1
Size in cents 1095.045¢
Names septendecimal major seventh,
septendecimal diminished octave
Color name 17u7, su 7th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M7}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney height (log2 nd) 9.08746
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 10
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 27

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In 17-limit just intonation, 32/17 is the septendecimal major seventh or the septendecimal diminished octave, depending on how one views it. It is also the octave-reduced 17th subharmonic. Its inversion is 17/16, the octave-reduced 17th harmonic. Measuring about 1095 ¢, it is the mediant between 15/8 and 17/9.

Terminology and notation

There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 32/17 should be a major seventh or a diminished octave. The major seventh view corresponds to Functional Just System, with the formal comma 4131/4096 separating it from 243/128, the Pythagorean major seventh. The diminished octave view corresponds to Helmholtz-Ellis notation, with the formal comma 2187/2176 separating it from 4096/2187, the Pythagorean diminished octave.

In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded circle-of-fifths notation is to prepare a Pythagorean comma accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.

See also