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Revision as of 12:47, 18 October 2021

Superpyth, a member of the archytas clan, has 4/3 as a generator, and the Archytas comma 64/63 is tempered out, so two generators represents 7/4 in addition to 16/9. Since 4/3 is a generator we can use the same standard chain-of-fourths notation that is also used for meantone and 12EDO, with the understanding that, for example, A♯ is sharper than B♭ (in contrast to meantone where A♯ is flatter than B♭, or 12EDO where they are identical). An interesting coincidence is that the plastic number has a value of ~486.822 cents, which, taken as a generator and assuming an octave period, constitutes a variety of superpyth.

If the 5th harmonic is used at all, it is mapped to -9 generators through tempering out 245/243, so C-D♯ is 5/4. So superpyth is "the opposite" of septimal meantone in several different ways: meantone has 4/3 tempered wide so that intervals of 5 are simple and intervals of 7 are complex, while superpyth has 4/3 tempered narrow so that intervals of 7 are simple while intervals of 5 are complex.

If intervals of 11 are desired, the canonical way is to map 11/8 to -16 generators, so 11/8 is a double augmented second (C-Dx), tempering out 100/99. Yet a simpler but reasonable way is to map it to +6 generators, so 11/8 is a diminished fifth (C-G♭), by tempering out 99/98. The latter is called supra, or suprapyth. The two mappings unite on 22EDO.

MOS scales of superpyth have cardinalities of 5, 7, 12, 17, or 22.

Temperament data

Interval chains

Archy (2.3.7)
1146.61 437.29 927.97 218.64 709.32 0 490.68 981.36 272.03 762.71 53.39
27/14 9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9 28/27
Full 7-limit superpyth
613.20 1102.91 392.62 882.33 172.04 661.75 1151.46 441.16 930.87 220.58 710.29 0 489.71 979.42 269.13 758.84 48.54 538.25 1027.96 317.67 807.38 97.09 586.80
10/7 15/8 5/4 5/3 10/9 27/14 9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9 28/27 9/5 6/5 8/5 16/15 7/5
Supra (2.3.7.11)
857.54 150.35 643.15 1135.96 428.77 921.58 214.38 707.19 0 492.81 985.62 278.42 771.23 64.04 556.85 1049.65 342.46
18/11 12/11 16/11 27/14 14/11~9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9~11/7 33/32~28/27 11/8 11/6 11/9
Full 11-limit suprapyth
604.44 1094.94 385.45 875.96 166.46 656.97 1147.47 437.98 928.48 218.99 709.49 0 490.51 981.01 271.52 762.02 52.53 543.03 1033.54 324.04 814.55 105.06 595.56
10/7 15/8 5/4 18/11~5/3 12/11~10/9 16/11 27/14 14/11~9/7 12/7 9/8~8/7 3/2 1/1 4/3 7/4~16/9 7/6 14/9~11/7 33/32~28/27 11/8 9/5~11/6 6/5~11/9 8/5 16/15 7/5

Scales

5-note MOS (2L 3s, proper)
7-note MOS (5L 2s, improper)

In contrast to the meantone diatonic scale, the superpyth diatonic is improper.

12-note MOS (5L 7s, borderline improper)

The boundary of propriety is 17EDO.

Tuning spectrum

ET
generator
eigenmonzo
(unchanged interval
)
generator
(¢)
comments
4/3 701.955 Pythagorean tuning
10\17 705.882 Lower bound of 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone
28/27 707.408 1/5 comma
23/39 707.692
9/7 708.771 1/4 comma, 1.3.7.9 minimax
16/15 708.807
13\22 709.091
5/4 709.590 9-odd-limit minimax
54/49 709.745 2/7 comma
25/24 710.040
29\49 710.204
6/5 710.545
7/5 710.681 7-odd-limit minimax
7/6 711.043 1/3 comma, 1.3.7 minimax
16\27 711.111
10/9 711.772
49/48 712.861 2/5 comma
8/7 715.587 1/2 comma
3\5 720.000 Upper bound of 7- and 9-odd-limit diamond monotone

Music

By Joel Grant Taylor, all in Superpyth[12] in 22EDO tuning.

Both by Lillian Hearne in 22EDO tuning

See also