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The '''syntonic-enneadecal equivalence continuum''' is a continuum of 5-limit temperaments which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the [[Enneadeca|enneadeca ({{Monzo| -14 -19 19 }})]].  
The '''syntonic-enneadecal equivalence continuum''' is a continuum of 5-limit temperaments which equate a number of [[81/80|syntonic commas (81/80)]] with the 19-comma ({{Monzo| -30 19}}).


All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ {{monzo|-14 -19 19}}. Varying ''n'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''n'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''n'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments supported by [[19edo]] (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them). The just value of ''n'' is approximately 0.1309..., and temperaments having ''n'' near this value tend to be the most accurate ones.
All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> ~ {{monzo|-30 19}}. Varying ''k'' results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to [[meantone]] as ''k'' approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite ''k'', the continuum describes the set of all [[5-limit]] temperaments supported by [[19edo]] (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them). The just value of ''k'' is approximately 6.376..., and temperaments having ''k'' near this value tend to be the most accurate ones.


Alternatively, we can express the continuum in terms of (81/80)<sup>''k''</sup> ~ {{monzo|-30 19}}; in this case, ''k'' = (''n'' + 19) / 3.
This continuum used to be expressed as the relationship between 81/80 and the [[enneadeca]] ({{Monzo|-14 -19 19}}). That is, (81/80)<sup>''n''</sup> ~ {{monzo|-14 -19 19}}. In this case, ''n'' = 3''k'' - 19.


{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2 center-3"
{| class="wikitable center-1 center-2"
|+ Temperaments in the continuum
|+ Temperaments in the continuum
|-
|-
! rowspan="2" | ''n''
! rowspan="2" | ''k''
! rowspan="2" | ''k''
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
! rowspan="2" | Temperament
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! Monzo
! Monzo
|-
|-
| -19
| 0
| 0
| 19edo
| 19edo
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| {{monzo|-30 19}}
| {{monzo|-30 19}}
|-
|-
| -16
| 1
| 1
| Lalayo
| Lalayo
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| {{monzo|-26 15 1}}
| {{monzo|-26 15 1}}
|-
|-
| -13
| 2
| 2
| Lala-Yoyo
| Lala-Yoyo
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| {{monzo|-22 11 2}}
| {{monzo|-22 11 2}}
|-
|-
| -12
| 7/3
| 19 & 8ccc
|
| {{monzo|-62 29 7}}
|-
| -11
| 8/3
| 19 & 1cc
|
| {{monzo|-58 25 8}}
|-
| -10
| 3
| 3
| Latriyo
| Latriyo
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| {{monzo|-18 7 3}}
| {{monzo|-18 7 3}}
|-
|-
| -9
| 10/3
| 19 & 6c
|
| {{monzo|-50 17 10}}
|-
| -8
| 11/3
| 19 & 11c
|
| {{monzo|-46 13 11}}
|-
| -7
| 4
| 4
| [[Negri]]
| [[Negri]]
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| {{monzo|-14 3 4}}
| {{monzo|-14 3 4}}
|-
|-
| -6
| 13/3
| 19 & 23b
| [[296630859375/274877906944]]
| {{monzo|-38 5 13}}
|-
| -5
| 14/3
| 19 & 35b
| [[18310546875/17179869184]]
| {{monzo|-34 1 14}}
|-
| -4
| 5
| 5
| [[Magic]]
| [[Magic]]
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| {{monzo|-10 -1 5}}
| {{monzo|-10 -1 5}}
|-
|-
| -3
| 16/3
| 19 & 78
| [[152587890625/146767085568]]
| {{monzo|-26 -7 16}}
|-
| -2
| 17/3
| 19 & 109
| [[762939453125/743008370688]]
| {{monzo|-22 -11 17}}
|-
| -1
| 6
| 6
| [[Hanson]]
| [[Hanson]]
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| {{monzo|-6 -5 6}}
| {{monzo|-6 -5 6}}
|-
|-
| 0
| 19/3
| [[Enneadecal]]
|
| {{monzo|-14 -19 19}}
|-
| 1
| 20/3
| [[Countermeantone]]
|
| {{monzo|-10 -23 20}}
|-
| 2
| 7
| 7
| [[Sensi]]
| [[Sensi]]
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| {{monzo|2 9 -7}}
| {{monzo|2 9 -7}}
|-
|-
| 3
| 22/3
| 19 & 169c
|
| {{monzo|2 31 -22}}
|-
| 4
| 23/3
| 19 & 162c
|
| {{monzo|-2 35 -23}}
|-
| 5
| 8
| 8
| [[Unicorn]]
| [[Unicorn]]
| [[1594323/1562500]]
| [[1594323/1562500]]
| {{monzo|-2 13 -8}}
| {{monzo|-2 13 -8}}
|-
| 9
| 19 & 51c
| [[129140163/125000000]]
| {{monzo|-6 17 -9}}
|-
|-
| …
| …
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| …
| …
|-
|-
| ∞
| ∞
| ∞
| [[Meantone]]
| [[Meantone]]
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Examples of temperaments with fractional values of ''n'':
Examples of temperaments with fractional values of ''n'':


* [[Parakleismic]] (''n'' = 0.5)
* [[Enneadecal]] (''k'' = 19/3 = 6.{{overline|3}})
* 19 & 506 (''n'' = 1/3 = 0.{{overline|3}})
* 19 & 506 (''k'' = 58/9 = 6.{{overline|4}})
* [[Parakleismic]] (''k'' = 6.5)
* [[Countermeantone]] (''k'' = 20/3 = 6.{{overline|6}})


== 19 & 506 ==
== 19 & 506 ==

Revision as of 12:17, 14 March 2021

The syntonic-enneadecal equivalence continuum is a continuum of 5-limit temperaments which equate a number of syntonic commas (81/80) with the 19-comma ([-30 19).

All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (81/80)k ~ [-30 19. Varying k results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to meantone as k approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite k, the continuum describes the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 19edo (due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers both commas and thus tempers all combinations of them). The just value of k is approximately 6.376..., and temperaments having k near this value tend to be the most accurate ones.

This continuum used to be expressed as the relationship between 81/80 and the enneadeca ([-14 -19 19). That is, (81/80)n ~ [-14 -19 19. In this case, n = 3k - 19.

Temperaments in the continuum
k Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
0 19edo 1162261467/1073741824 [-30 19
1 Lalayo 71744535/67108864 [-26 15 1
2 Lala-Yoyo 4428675/4194304 [-22 11 2
3 Latriyo 273375/262144 [-18 7 3
4 Negri 16875/16384 [-14 3 4
5 Magic 3125/3072 [-10 -1 5
6 Hanson 15625/15552 [-6 -5 6
7 Sensi 78732/78125 [2 9 -7
8 Unicorn 1594323/1562500 [-2 13 -8
9 19 & 51c 129140163/125000000 [-6 17 -9
Meantone 81/80 [-4 4 -1

Examples of temperaments with fractional values of n:

19 & 506

Commas: [38 61 -58

POTE generator: 505.1394 cents

Map: [<1 26 28|, <0 -58 -61|]

EDOs: 19, 38, 57, 468, 487, 506, 525, 544, 1012, 1031

The temperament finder - 5-limit 19 & 506