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9/8 is the Pythagorean whole tone, measuring approximately 203.9¢. It can be arrived at by stacking two just perfect fifths ([[3/2|3/2]]) and reducing the result by one octave. However, it is also a relatively low overtone in its own right, octave-reduced. It can be treated as a dissonance or a consonance, depending on compositional context.
'''9/8''' is the Pythagorean '''whole tone''' or '''major second''', measuring approximately 203.9¢. It can be arrived at by stacking two just perfect fifths ([[3/2]]) and reducing the result by one octave. However, it is also a relatively low overtone in its own right, octave-reduced. It can be treated as a dissonance or a consonance, depending on compositional context.


Two 9/8's stacked produce [[81/64|81/64]], the Pythagorean major third, a rather bright major third of approximately 407.8¢. However, a 9/8 plus the minor whole tone [[10/9|10/9]] yields [[5/4|5/4]]. This distinction, between a major whole tone and minor whole tone, has been completely obliterated in [[12edo|12edo]], and so we are unaccustomed to thinking of more than one size of whole tone comprising a major third. Other systems which temper out this difference (which is [[81/80|81/80]], the syntonic comma of about 21.5¢) include [[19edo|19edo]], [[26edo|26edo]], [[31edo|31edo]], and all [[Meantone|meantone]] temperaments.
Two 9/8's stacked produce [[81/64]], the Pythagorean major third, a rather bright major third of approximately 407.8¢. However, a 9/8 plus the minor whole tone [[10/9]] yields [[5/4]]. This distinction, between a major whole tone and minor whole tone, has been completely obliterated in [[12edo]], and so we are unaccustomed to thinking of more than one size of whole tone comprising a major third. Other systems which temper out this difference (which is [[81/80]], the syntonic comma of about 21.5¢) include [[19edo]], [[26edo]], [[31edo]], and all [[meantone]] temperaments.


9/8 is well-represented in [[6edo|6edo]] and its multiples. [[EDO|Edo]]s which tune [[3/2|3_2]] close to just ([[29edo|29edo]], [[41edo|41edo]], [[53edo|53edo]], to name three) will tune 9/8 close as well.
9/8 is well-represented in [[6edo]] and its multiples. [[EDO|Edo]]s which tune [[3_2]] close to just ([[29edo]], [[41edo]], [[53edo]], to name three) will tune 9/8 close as well.


See: [[Gallery_of_Just_Intervals|Gallery of Just Intervals]]     [[Category:3-limit]]
== See also ==
[[Category:interval]]
* [[Gallery of Just Intervals]]
[[Category:just_interval]]
* [[16/9]] its inverse interval
[[Category:listen]]
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_second Major second - Wikipedia]
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[[Category:ratio]]
[[Category:3-limit]]
[[Category:second]]
[[Category:Interval]]
[[Category:whole_tone]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Listen]]
[[Category:Pythagorean]]
[[Category:Ratio]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Whole tone]]
[[Category:Superparticular]]

Revision as of 17:40, 23 October 2018

Interval information
Ratio 9/8
Factorization 2-3 × 32
Monzo [-3 2
Size in cents 203.91¢
Name whole tone
Color name w2, wa 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M2} }[/math]
Special properties square superparticular,
reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney height (log2 nd) 6.16993
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 6.33985
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 12

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9/8 is the Pythagorean whole tone or major second, measuring approximately 203.9¢. It can be arrived at by stacking two just perfect fifths (3/2) and reducing the result by one octave. However, it is also a relatively low overtone in its own right, octave-reduced. It can be treated as a dissonance or a consonance, depending on compositional context.

Two 9/8's stacked produce 81/64, the Pythagorean major third, a rather bright major third of approximately 407.8¢. However, a 9/8 plus the minor whole tone 10/9 yields 5/4. This distinction, between a major whole tone and minor whole tone, has been completely obliterated in 12edo, and so we are unaccustomed to thinking of more than one size of whole tone comprising a major third. Other systems which temper out this difference (which is 81/80, the syntonic comma of about 21.5¢) include 19edo, 26edo, 31edo, and all meantone temperaments.

9/8 is well-represented in 6edo and its multiples. Edos which tune 3_2 close to just (29edo, 41edo, 53edo, to name three) will tune 9/8 close as well.

See also