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One of the most common temperaments talked about in the pelogic family is '''mavila''', the 5-limit temperament eliminating 135/128, from which higher-limit extensions are derived. | One of the most common temperaments talked about in the pelogic family is '''mavila''', the 5-limit temperament eliminating 135/128, from which higher-limit extensions are derived. | ||
'Pelogic' (from the Indonesian word ''[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelog pelog]'') should probably be pronounced [pelogɪk] or [pɛlɔgɪk] (like "log", not like "logic"). | |||
=Mavila= | |||
=5-limit parent temperament= | |||
==Mavila== | |||
<span style="display: block; text-align: right;">Other languages: [[:de:Mavila|Deutsch]]</span> | <span style="display: block; text-align: right;">Other languages: [[:de:Mavila|Deutsch]]</span> | ||
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EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[9edo|9]], [[16edo|16]], [[23edo|23]], [[25edo|25b]], [[30edo|30bc]], [[34edo|34b]], [[41edo|41b]] | EDOs: [[7edo|7]], [[9edo|9]], [[16edo|16]], [[23edo|23]], [[25edo|25b]], [[30edo|30bc]], [[34edo|34b]], [[41edo|41b]] | ||
= | =7-limit children= | ||
=Septimal Mavila= | ==Septimal Mavila== | ||
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 126/125 | [[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 126/125 | ||
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Badness: 0.0890 | Badness: 0.0890 | ||
=Pelogic= | ==Pelogic== | ||
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 21/20 | [[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 21/20 | ||
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Badness: 0.0387 | Badness: 0.0387 | ||
==11-limit== | ===11-limit=== | ||
Commas: 21/20, 33/32, 45/44 | Commas: 21/20, 33/32, 45/44 | ||
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Badness: 0.0228 | Badness: 0.0228 | ||
=Armodue= | ==Armodue== | ||
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 36/35 | [[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 36/35 | ||
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Badness: 0.0490 | Badness: 0.0490 | ||
==11-limit | ===11-limit=== | ||
Commas: 33/32, 36/35, 45/44 | Commas: 33/32, 36/35, 45/44 | ||
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Badness: 0.0272 | Badness: 0.0272 | ||
==13-limit | ===13-limit=== | ||
Commas: 27/26, 33/32, 36/35, 45/44 | Commas: 27/26, 33/32, 36/35, 45/44 | ||
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Badness: 0.0194 | Badness: 0.0194 | ||
=Hornbostel= | ==Hornbostel== | ||
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 875/864 | [[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 875/864 | ||
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Badness: 0.1213 | Badness: 0.1213 | ||
=Superpelog= | ==Superpelog== | ||
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 49/48 | [[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 49/48 | ||
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Badness: 0.0582 | Badness: 0.0582 | ||
==11-limit== | ===11-limit=== | ||
Commas: 33/32, 45/44, 49/48 | Commas: 33/32, 45/44, 49/48 | ||
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''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/MOS/20120418-9mos-mindaugas.mp3 Mindaugas Rex Lithuaniae]'' by [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=2267 Chris Vaisvil] (in 5\23 tuning) | ''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/MOS/20120418-9mos-mindaugas.mp3 Mindaugas Rex Lithuaniae]'' by [http://chrisvaisvil.com/?p=2267 Chris Vaisvil] (in 5\23 tuning) | ||
=Bipelog= | ==Bipelog== | ||
[[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 50/49 | [[Comma|Comma]]s: 135/128, 50/49 | ||
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Badness: 0.0747 | Badness: 0.0747 | ||
==11-limit== | ===11-limit=== | ||
Commas: 33/32 45/44 50/49 | Commas: 33/32 45/44 50/49 | ||
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Badness: 0.0357 | Badness: 0.0357 | ||
=Mohavila= | ==Mohavila== | ||
Commas: 135/128, 1323/1250 | Commas: 135/128, 1323/1250 | ||
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Badness: 0.2224 | Badness: 0.2224 | ||
==11-limit== | ===11-limit=== | ||
Commas: 33/32, 45/44, 1323/1250 | Commas: 33/32, 45/44, 1323/1250 | ||
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Badness: 0.0921 | Badness: 0.0921 | ||
=Mavila Listening examples= | =Mavila Listening examples= | ||
'''[[Gene_Ward_Smith|Gene Ward Smith]]''' | '''[[Gene_Ward_Smith|Gene Ward Smith]]''' | ||
*[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/mine/mushc.ogg Mysterious Mush (spectrally mapped)] | |||
[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/mine/mushc.ogg Mysterious Mush (spectrally mapped)] | *[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/mine/mush.ogg Mysterious Mush (unmapped)] | ||
*''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/transformers/hopper.mp3 Hopper]'' by Singer-Medora-White-Smith; in f^4-10f+10=0 equal-beating mavila | |||
[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/gene_ward_smith/mine/mush.ogg Mysterious Mush (unmapped)] | |||
''[http://micro.soonlabel.com/gene_ward_smith/transformers/hopper.mp3 Hopper]'' by Singer-Medora-White-Smith; in f^4-10f+10=0 equal-beating mavila | |||
'''[[Mike_Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]]''' | '''[[Mike_Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]]''' | ||
*[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments-9-edo The Mavila Experiments - 9-EDO Version] | |||
[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments-9-edo The Mavila Experiments - 9-EDO Version] | *[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments-16-edo The Mavila Experiments - 16-EDO Version] | ||
*[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments The Mavila Experiments - 23-EDO Version] | |||
[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments-16-edo The Mavila Experiments - 16-EDO Version] | *[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments-25-edo The Mavila Experiments - 25-EDO Version] | ||
[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments The Mavila Experiments - 23-EDO Version] | |||
[https://soundcloud.com/mikebattagliaexperiments/sets/the-mavila-experiments-25-edo The Mavila Experiments - 25-EDO Version] | |||
'''[[John_Moriarty|John Moriarty]]''' | '''[[John_Moriarty|John Moriarty]]''' | ||
*''[http://clones.soonlabel.com/public/micro/j_l_moriat/Mavila.mp3 Mavila]'' | |||
[[Category:family]] | |||
[[Category:list]] | [[Category:list]] | ||
[[Category:listen]] | [[Category:listen]] | ||
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[[Category:pelogic]] | [[Category:pelogic]] | ||
[[Category:theory]] | [[Category:theory]] | ||
Revision as of 20:58, 23 September 2018
The pelogic family tempers out 135/128, the pelogic comma, also known as the major chroma or major limma. The 5-limit temperament is (5-limit) mavila, so named after the Chopi village where it was discovered. The generator for all of these is a very flat fifth, lying on the spectrum between 7-equal and 9-equal.
One of the most salient and characteristic features of pelogic temperament is that when you stack 4 of the tempered fifths you get to a minor third instead of the usual major third that you would get if the fifths were pure. This also means that the arrangement of small and large steps in a 7-note mavila scale is the inverse of a diatonic scale of 2 small steps and 5 large steps; Mavila has 2 large steps and 5 small steps. (see 2L 5s)
Another salient feature of pelogic temperament is the fact that 9 note MOS scales may be produced, thus giving us three different MOS scales to choose from that are not decidedly chromatic in nature; (5, 7, and 9 note scales) This is reflected in the design of the 9 + 7 layout of the Goldsmith keyboard for 16 tone equal temperament. (see 7L 2s)
One of the most common temperaments talked about in the pelogic family is mavila, the 5-limit temperament eliminating 135/128, from which higher-limit extensions are derived.
'Pelogic' (from the Indonesian word pelog) should probably be pronounced [pelogɪk] or [pɛlɔgɪk] (like "log", not like "logic").
5-limit parent temperament
Mavila
Other languages: Deutsch
Commas: 135/128
POTE generator: 679.806
Map: [<1 0 7|, <0 1 -3|]
EDOs: 7, 9, 16, 23, 25b, 30bc, 34b, 41b
7-limit children
Septimal Mavila
Commas: 135/128, 126/125
POTE generator: 677.912
Map: [<1 0 7 20|, <0 1 -3 -11|]
Badness: 0.0890
Pelogic
Commas: 135/128, 21/20
POTE generator: 672.853
Map: [<1 0 7 9|, <0 1 -3 -4|]
Wedgie: <<1 -3 -4 -7 -9 -1||
Badness: 0.0387
11-limit
Commas: 21/20, 33/32, 45/44
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 672.644
Map: [<1 0 7 9 5|, <0 1 -3 -4 -1|]
Badness: 0.0228
Armodue
Commas: 135/128, 36/35
POTE generator: 673.997
Map: [<1 0 7 -5|, <0 1 -3 5|]
Wedgie: <<1 -3 5 -7 5 20||
Badness: 0.0490
11-limit
Commas: 33/32, 36/35, 45/44
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 673.807
Map: [<1 0 7 -5 5|, <0 1 -3 5 -1|]
Badness: 0.0272
13-limit
Commas: 27/26, 33/32, 36/35, 45/44
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 673.763
Map: [<1 0 7 -5 5 -1|, <0 1 -3 5 -1 3|]
EDOs: 7, 9, 16, 41bef, 57bef
Badness: 0.0194
Hornbostel
Commas: 135/128, 875/864
POTE generator: 678.947
Map: [<1 0 7 -16|, <0 1 -3 12|]
Wedgie: <<1 -3 12 -7 16 36||
Badness: 0.1213
Superpelog
Commas: 135/128, 49/48
POTE generator: 259.952
Map: [<1 0 7 2|, <0 2 -6 1|]
Wedgie: <<2 -6 1 -14 -4 19||
EDOs: 9, 14c, 23d, 37bcd, 60bcd
Badness: 0.0582
11-limit
Commas: 33/32, 45/44, 49/48
POTE generator: ~8/7 = 259.959
Map: [<1 0 7 2 5|, <0 2 -6 1 -2|]
EDOs: 9, 14c, 23de, 37bcde
Badness: 0.0285
Mindaugas Rex Lithuaniae by Chris Vaisvil (in 5\23 tuning)
Bipelog
Commas: 135/128, 50/49
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 681.195
Map: [<2 0 14 15|, <0 1 -3 -3|]
Wedgie: <<2 -6 -6 -14 -15 3||
Badness: 0.0747
11-limit
Commas: 33/32 45/44 50/49
POTE generator: ~3/2 = 681.280
Map: [<2 0 14 15 10|, <0 1 -3 -3 -1|]
EDOs: 14c, 16, 44bcde
Badness: 0.0357
Mohavila
Commas: 135/128, 1323/1250
POTE generator: ~25/21 = 337.658
Map: [<1 1 4 7|, <0 2 -6 -15|]
Wedgie: <<2 -6 -15 -14 -29 -18||
EDOs: 32bd, 36
Badness: 0.2224
11-limit
Commas: 33/32, 45/44, 1323/1250
POTE generator: ~25/21 = 337.633
Map: [<1 1 4 7 4|, <0 2 -6 -15 -2|]
EDOs: 32bde
Badness: 0.0921
Mavila Listening examples
- Mysterious Mush (spectrally mapped)
- Mysterious Mush (unmapped)
- Hopper by Singer-Medora-White-Smith; in f^4-10f+10=0 equal-beating mavila