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'''1375/1372''', the '''moctdel comma''' is a no-threes [[11-limit]] comma with a size of 3.78 [[cent]]s. It is the amount by which a stack of three [[7/5]]s falls short of [[11/4]], undecimal eleventh (one octave above [[11/8]]). Some rank-two temperaments such as [[Gamelismic clan|miracle]], [[Ragismic microtemperaments|octoid]] and [[Mirkwai clan|grendel]] temper out this comma, and from this it derives its name. | '''1375/1372''', the '''moctdel comma''' is a no-threes [[11-limit]] comma with a size of 3.78 [[cent]]s. It is the amount by which a stack of three [[7/5]]s falls short of [[11/4]], undecimal eleventh (one octave above [[11/8]]). Some rank-two temperaments such as [[Gamelismic clan|miracle]], [[Ragismic microtemperaments|octoid]] and [[Mirkwai clan|grendel]] temper out this comma, and from this it derives its name. | ||
In the 2.7/5.11 subgroup it creates a very efficient temperament with a generator of 7/5, two of which equals [[55/28]] and three of which equals [[11/4]] as discussed. If we split the generator in 3, we get [[~]][[28/25]] which is notable as the difference between [[5/4]] and [[7/5]] so that two gens finds 5/4, four gens finds | == Temperaments == | ||
Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-4 '''moctdel''' temperament in the full [[11-limit]], and '''moctdelic''' temperament in its minimal prime [[subgroup]] of 2.5.7.11. | |||
In the 2.7/5.11 subgroup it creates a very efficient temperament with a generator of 7/5, two of which equals [[55/28]] and three of which equals [[11/4]] as discussed. If we split the generator in 3, we get [[~]][[28/25]] which is notable as the difference between [[5/4]] and [[7/5]] so that two gens finds 5/4, four gens finds [[25/16]]~[[11/7]] and seven gens finds [[11/5]], which is the (no-3's) 11-limit version of [[didacus]], a very strong temperament of the 2.5.7.11 subgroup. | |||
== See also == | == See also == | ||
* [[Small comma]] | * [[Small comma]] | ||
* [[Moctdel clan]] | |||
* [[Didacus]] | * [[Didacus]] | ||
[[Category:Moctdel]] | [[Category:Moctdel]] | ||
[[Category:Commas named by combining multiple temperament names]] | [[Category:Commas named by combining multiple temperament names]] | ||
Revision as of 01:42, 10 January 2026
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1375/1372, the moctdel comma is a no-threes 11-limit comma with a size of 3.78 cents. It is the amount by which a stack of three 7/5s falls short of 11/4, undecimal eleventh (one octave above 11/8). Some rank-two temperaments such as miracle, octoid and grendel temper out this comma, and from this it derives its name.
Temperaments
Tempering out this comma leads to the rank-4 moctdel temperament in the full 11-limit, and moctdelic temperament in its minimal prime subgroup of 2.5.7.11.
In the 2.7/5.11 subgroup it creates a very efficient temperament with a generator of 7/5, two of which equals 55/28 and three of which equals 11/4 as discussed. If we split the generator in 3, we get ~28/25 which is notable as the difference between 5/4 and 7/5 so that two gens finds 5/4, four gens finds 25/16~11/7 and seven gens finds 11/5, which is the (no-3's) 11-limit version of didacus, a very strong temperament of the 2.5.7.11 subgroup.