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== What exactly are the reasons for keeping "Pythagorean" but not allowing names for higher-limit trivial temps? ==

I personally find defining trivial temps useful as the families defined by them determine what temperaments "flatten" larger subgroups down to the trivial temperament's subgroup.

~~I personally find defining~~ trivial temps ~~useful as~~ the ~~families defined by them determine what temperaments~~ "~~flatten~~" ~~larger subgroups down~~ to the ~~trivial~~ temperament's ~~subgroup~~.

: First of all, the name of the trivial temps in all limits is ''JI''.

: ''Pythagorean tuning'' is kept becuz it has history and becuz Pythagoras was known to haved worked with the 3-limit. Also, ''Pythagorean tuning'' isn't called ''pythagorean temperament''. The latter should generally be avoided cuz it can be confused with compton, the temp that tempers out the Pythagorean comma. Another example is ''Alpharabian tuning'', which was lately added cuz al-Farabi was known to have worked with undecimal intervals.

: Now, given ''Alpharabian tuning'' has been added, it would seem okay to add something like ''Classical tuning''. After all, Classical music tempers 5-limit intervals, which give rise to the name ''classical intervals'', so it's related. However, "Classical tuning" has a big problem: it can be used to contrast meantone, the temperament that tempers classical intervals and that is actually used by Classical music. Iow which of JI and meantone is more Classical? It's meantone. Therefore, ''Classical tuning'' isn't a proper alias for JI.

: [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)

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 == What exactly are the reasons for keeping "Pythagorean" but not allowing names for higher-limit trivial temps? ==
+I personally find defining trivial temps useful as the families defined by them determine what temperaments "flatten" larger subgroups down to the trivial temperament's subgroup.
-I personally find defining trivial temps useful as the families defined by them determine what temperaments "flatten" larger subgroups down to the trivial temperament's subgroup.
+: First of all, the name of the trivial temps in all limits is ''JI''.
+: ''Pythagorean tuning'' is kept becuz it has history and becuz Pythagoras was known to haved worked with the 3-limit. Also, ''Pythagorean tuning'' isn't called ''pythagorean temperament''. The latter should generally be avoided cuz it can be confused with compton, the temp that tempers out the Pythagorean comma. Another example is ''Alpharabian tuning'', which was lately added cuz al-Farabi was known to have worked with undecimal intervals.
+: Now, given ''Alpharabian tuning'' has been added, it would seem okay to add something like ''Classical tuning''. After all, Classical music tempers 5-limit intervals, which give rise to the name ''classical intervals'', so it's related. However, "Classical tuning" has a big problem: it can be used to contrast meantone, the temperament that tempers classical intervals and that is actually used by Classical music. Iow which of JI and meantone is more Classical? It's meantone. Therefore, ''Classical tuning'' isn't a proper alias for JI.
+: [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:04, 21 April 2025 (UTC)