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Revision as of 15:22, 24 July 2024

The diaschismic-gothmic equivalence continuum (or diaschismic-tetracot equivalence continuum) is a continuum of 5-limit temperaments describing the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 34edo.

All temperaments in the continuum satisfy (2048/2025)n ~ [27 -17, equating a number of diaschismas (2048/2025) with the gothic comma (134217728/129140163). At n = 2 (which we align with r = 0) we get tetracot, which is an important offset for a number of reasons discussed later. Varying n results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to diaschismic as n approaches infinity. If we allow non-integer and infinite n, the continuum describes the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 34edo due to it being the unique equal temperament that tempers out both commas and thus tempers out all combinations of them. The just value of n is approximately 3.41464…, and temperaments having n near this value tend to be the most accurate ones.

The Pythagorean gothma a.k.a. gothic comma is the characteristic 3-limit comma tempered out in 34edo. Describing the continuum this way has notable advantages – in particular, due to being determined in terms of the 3-limit comma and the comma with the next lowest power of 5, twice the numerator of the value of n represents the number of generator steps required to reach the interval class of harmonic 3. For example:

  • Immunity (n = 1) splits its twelfth in two;
  • Tetracot (n = 2) splits its fifth in four;
  • Hanson (n = 3) splits its twelfth in six;
  • Etc.

The factor of 2 between n and the split of the interval class of 3 has to do with the fact that 34et has two rings of 17et's.

Another reasonable way of defining this continuum equates a number of diaschismas with the tetracot comma (20000/19683), so that (2048/2025)r ~ 20000/19683. As a result, r = n - 2, and this labeling may also be called the diaschismic-tetracot equivalence continuum. The just value of r is 1.4146…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate.

Temperaments with half-integer n and r
r n Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
-2 0 Gothic 134217728/129140163 [27 -17
-1.5 1/2 22c & 34 (30 digits) [43 -30 2
-1 1 Immunity 1638400/1594323 [16 -13 2
-0.5 3/2 34 & 36c (22 digits) [21 -22 6
0 2 Tetracot 20000/19683 [5 -9 4
0.5 5/2 Fifive 9765625/9565938 [-1 -14 10
1 3 Hanson 15625/15552 [-6 -5 6
1.5 7/2 Vishnu (20 digits) [23 6 -14
2 4 Würschmidt 393216/390625 [17 1 -8
2.5 9/2 34 & 142 (28 digits) [45 -2 18
3 5 Mabila 268435456/263671875 [28 -3 -10
3.5 11/2 34 & 166c (42 digits) [67 -10 -22
4 6 Goldis (24 digits) [39 -7 -12
Srutal 2048/2025 [11 -4 -2

All temperaments in the continuum also satisfy (15625/15552)k ~ 20000/19683, for a value of k defined such that 1/r + 1/k = 1. Varying k (for number of kleismas) results in different temperaments listed in the table below. It converges to hanson as k approaches infinity, and is motivated by the fact that many important temperaments of 34edo follow a chain of commas connected by kleismas as discovered by Lériendil. The just value of k is 3.4117…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate.

Temperaments with half-integer k in the kleismic-tetracot continuum
k n Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
-2 8/3 34 & 113 (24 digits) [-7 -19 16
-1 5/2 Fifive 9765625/9565938 [-1 -14 10
0 2 Tetracot 20000/19683 [5 -9 4
0.5 1 Immunity 1638400/1594323 [16 -13 2
1 Srutal 2048/2025 [11 -4 -2
1.5 5 Mabila 268435456/263671875 [28 -3 -10
2 4 Würschmidt 393216/390625 [17 1 -8
2.5 11/3 Majvam (32 digits) [40 7 -22
3 7/2 Vishnu (20 digits) [23 6 -14
3.5 17/5 Chlorine (48 digits) [-52 -17 34
4 10/3 Gammic (28 digits) [-29 -11 20
5 13/4 Quatracot (38 digits) [-35 -16 26
3 Hanson 15625/15552 [-6 -5 6
Temperaments with fractional n, r and k
n r k Temperament Comma
17/5 = 3.4 7/5 = 1.4 7/2 = 3.5 Chlorine [-52 -17 34
11/3 = 3.6 5/3 = 1.6 5/2 = 2.5 Majvam [40 7 -22
9/2 = 4.5 5/2 = 2.5 5/3 = 1.6 34 & 142 [45 -2 -18