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The harmonic 7 can be added in a similar way to how mavila is extended to [[armodue]], by having [[7/4]] reached as -5 generators of 34/25 (or the "minor seventh" in antidiatonic terms).
The harmonic 7 can be added in a similar way to how mavila is extended to [[armodue]], by having [[7/4]] reached as -5 generators of 34/25 (or the "minor seventh" in antidiatonic terms).


For technical data, see [[no-threes subgroup temperaments#Vengeance]].
For technical data, see [[no-threes subgroup temperaments #Vengeance]].
 
== Interval chain ==
== Interval chain ==
In the following table, prime harmonics are labeled in '''bold'''.
In the following table, prime harmonics are labeled in '''bold'''.
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{|class="wikitable"
{|class="wikitable"
|-
|-
!#
! #
!Cents*
! Cents*
!Approximate ratios
! Approximate ratios
!colspan=2|Melodic antidiatonic notation
! colspan=2| Melodic antidiatonic notation
|-
|-
|0
| 0
|0.00
| 0.00
|'''1/1'''
| '''1/1'''
|perfect unison
| perfect unison
|D
| D
|-
|-
|1
| 1
|527.928
| 527.928
|34/25
| 34/25
|perfect 4th
| perfect 4th
|G
| G
|-
|-
|2
| 2
|1055.856
| 1055.856
|119/64, 125/68
| 119/64, 125/68
|major 7th
| major 7th
|C
| C
|-
|-
|3
|3
|383.784
| 383.784
|'''5/4'''
| '''5/4'''
|major 3rd
| major 3rd
|F
| F
|-
|-
|4
| 4
|911.712
| 911.712
|17/10
| 17/10
|major 6th
| major 6th
|B#
| B#
|-
|-
|5
| 5
|239.64
| 239.64
|'''8/7'''
| '''8/7'''
|major 2nd
| major 2nd
|E#
| E#
|-
|-
|6
| 6
|767.568
| 767.568
|25/16
| 25/16
|minor 6th
| minor 6th
|B
| B
|-
|-
|7
| 7
|95.496
| 95.496
|'''17/16'''
| '''17/16'''
|augmented unison
| augmented unison
|D#
| D#
|}
|}
<nowiki>*</nowiki> in 2.5.7.17 subgroup CTE tuning
<nowiki>*</nowiki> in 2.5.7.17 subgroup CTE tuning


[[Category:Temperaments]]
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[[Category:Subgroup temperaments]]
[[Category:Subgroup temperaments]]
[[Category:Rank-2 temperaments]]
[[Category:Rank-2 temperaments]]

Revision as of 14:49, 28 April 2025

Vengeance (CompactStar's name) or pentagoth (groundfault's and Userminusone's name) is a 2.5.17 subgroup temperament. It is notable for having a structure similar to mavila with an antidiatonic scale and superdiatonic scale but being comparatively very low in error and badness, because the flat fifth generator is represented by 25/17 rather than 3/2 (or equivalently, 34/25 rather than 4/3). It is defined by tempering out the comma 78608/78125. The name "vengeance' was coined by CompactStar and derives from 25/17's name as the "vengeance subfifth". Like with mavila, 3 generators reach the major third represented by 5/4, but the minor third is represented by 20/17. The minor triad is 17:20:25, which makes it far simpler than the major triad of 68:85:100, in contrast to 5-limit major and minor triads as used in mavila and meantone.

Pentagoth was defined by ground and Userminusone as having an extension to the 2.5.13/11.17 subgroup that identifies 20/17 and 13/11 by tempering out 221/220. The exact-13/11 tuning is 672.3¢, near 14\25 (672.0¢), and the exact-20/17 tuning is 670.3¢, near 19\34 (670.6¢).

The harmonic 7 can be added in a similar way to how mavila is extended to armodue, by having 7/4 reached as -5 generators of 34/25 (or the "minor seventh" in antidiatonic terms).

For technical data, see no-threes subgroup temperaments #Vengeance.

Interval chain

In the following table, prime harmonics are labeled in bold.

# Cents* Approximate ratios Melodic antidiatonic notation
0 0.00 1/1 perfect unison D
1 527.928 34/25 perfect 4th G
2 1055.856 119/64, 125/68 major 7th C
3 383.784 5/4 major 3rd F
4 911.712 17/10 major 6th B#
5 239.64 8/7 major 2nd E#
6 767.568 25/16 minor 6th B
7 95.496 17/16 augmented unison D#

* in 2.5.7.17 subgroup CTE tuning