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'''243/242''', the '''rastma''' or the '''neutral third comma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[11-limit]] (also [[2.3.11 subgroup|2.3.11-subgroup]]) [[comma]] with a value of roughly 7.1 [[cent]]s. It is significant in [[just intonation]] as the amount by which a stack of two [[11/9]] neutral thirds fall short of [[3/2]] just perfect fifth, by which a stack of two [[33/32]] quartertones falls short of an [[2187/2048|apotome (2187/2048)]] as well as the difference between [[11/9]] and [[27/22]], and, the difference between [[45/44]] and [[55/54]]. The last makes the theory where the rastma serves as the [[diatonic, chromatic, enharmonic, subchromatic|subchroma]] that separates greater and lesser 11-limit chromas – a theory that becomes especially useful when one works extensively with high-fidelity renditions of the 11-limit.
'''243/242''', the '''rastma''' or the '''neutral third comma''', is a [[small comma|small]] [[11-limit]] (also [[2.3.11 subgroup|2.3.11-subgroup]]) [[comma]] with a value of roughly 7.1 [[cent]]s. It is significant in [[just intonation]] as the amount by which a stack of two [[11/9]] neutral thirds fall short of [[3/2]] just perfect fifth as well as the difference between an Alpharabian wide fifth ([[729/484]]) exceeds a just perfect fifth, the amount by which a stack of two [[33/32]] quartertones falls short of an [[2187/2048|apotome (2187/2048)]] as well as the difference between [[11/9]] and [[27/22]], and the difference between [[45/44]] and [[55/54]]. The last makes the theory where the rastma serves as the [[diatonic, chromatic, enharmonic, subchromatic|subchroma]] that separates greater and lesser 11-limit chromas – a theory that becomes especially useful when one works extensively with high-fidelity renditions of the 11-limit.


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==

Revision as of 10:31, 13 April 2025

Interval information
Ratio 243/242
Factorization 2-1 × 35 × 11-2
Monzo [-1 5 0 0 -2
Size in cents 7.13912¢
Names rastma,
neutral third comma
Color name 1uu1, lulu 1sn,
Lulu comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}_{11,11} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 15.8437
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 15.8496
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 39
Comma size small
S-expression S9 / S11
Open this interval in xen-calc

243/242, the rastma or the neutral third comma, is a small 11-limit (also 2.3.11-subgroup) comma with a value of roughly 7.1 cents. It is significant in just intonation as the amount by which a stack of two 11/9 neutral thirds fall short of 3/2 just perfect fifth as well as the difference between an Alpharabian wide fifth (729/484) exceeds a just perfect fifth, the amount by which a stack of two 33/32 quartertones falls short of an apotome (2187/2048) as well as the difference between 11/9 and 27/22, and the difference between 45/44 and 55/54. The last makes the theory where the rastma serves as the subchroma that separates greater and lesser 11-limit chromas – a theory that becomes especially useful when one works extensively with high-fidelity renditions of the 11-limit.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the full 11-limit leads to the rastmic temperament, or in the 2.3.11 subgroup, the neutral temperament, enabling rastmic chords in either case.

See Rastmic clan for the clan of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out. See Rastmic rank-3 clan for the clan of rank-3 temperaments where it is tempered out.

See also