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::::: Hmm... maybe it's a bad example for me because I think tempering 128/125 is unfeasible (maybe [[27edo]] does it well but that uses [[delta-rational chord]]s to justify itself so it's not really the thing temperaments were designed for because the target isn't a fixed point) but I will follow the spirit of the logic of the example. The issue seems to be rather that CTE isn't designed to handle the case where extra generators are independent of the commas tempered if you are valuing p/q over pq (because CTE choosing pure generators makes perfect sense if you want to weight them equally and in this sense it's the logical constraining of [[TE]] which assumes the same). But POTE certainly doesn't seem to be the right fix to prioritising p/q over pq. Rather it seems like (at least in this case) what's wanted is a metric that respects tendency (a desire I've voiced before actually). For example it's noted [[Constrained_tuning#CTE_tuning_vs_CTWE_tuning|here]] that "POTE tuning works as a quick approximation to CTWE" (AKA KE tuning), so maybe CTWE / KE tuning is desired? --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 18:23, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
::::: Hmm... maybe it's a bad example for me because I think tempering 128/125 is unfeasible (maybe [[27edo]] does it well but that uses [[delta-rational chord]]s to justify itself so it's not really the thing temperaments were designed for because the target isn't a fixed point) but I will follow the spirit of the logic of the example. The issue seems to be rather that CTE isn't designed to handle the case where extra generators are independent of the commas tempered if you are valuing p/q over pq (because CTE choosing pure generators makes perfect sense if you want to weight them equally and in this sense it's the logical constraining of [[TE]] which assumes the same). But POTE certainly doesn't seem to be the right fix to prioritising p/q over pq. Rather it seems like (at least in this case) what's wanted is a metric that respects tendency (a desire I've voiced before actually). For example it's noted [[Constrained_tuning#CTE_tuning_vs_CTWE_tuning|here]] that "POTE tuning works as a quick approximation to CTWE" (AKA KE tuning), so maybe CTWE / KE tuning is desired? --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 18:23, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


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: Yeah, KE is what you're looking for. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 20:50, 16 March 2024 (UTC)


=== Mike's Response to All This ===
=== Mike's Response to All This ===
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:: Thanks for expressing your general views tuning theory and tuning optimization. I see you seem to still think there is an open question if you want to "keep" the thing we made which you don't like, or replace it with the thing you made which we don't like. I think I've said my piece about this way of doing things at this point. When you folks figure out what you want to do, if it still involves removing stuff, please ask us on FB first. Thanks. [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 20:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
:: Thanks for expressing your general views tuning theory and tuning optimization. I see you seem to still think there is an open question if you want to "keep" the thing we made which you don't like, or replace it with the thing you made which we don't like. I think I've said my piece about this way of doing things at this point. When you folks figure out what you want to do, if it still involves removing stuff, please ask us on FB first. Thanks. [[User:Mike Battaglia|Mike Battaglia]] ([[User talk:Mike Battaglia|talk]]) 20:15, 16 March 2024 (UTC)
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