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== Relation to temperaments == | == Relation to temperaments == | ||
Pythagorean tuning can be considered a [[trivial temperament|trivial]] rank-2 temperament in the 2.3 subgroup, where it tempers out no commas (providing no additional mappings for intervals other than the pure just structure). As such, all rank-2 temperaments generated by 3/2 and 2/1 in the 5-limit or higher (e.g. meantone) can be seen as | Pythagorean tuning can be considered a [[trivial temperament|trivial]] [[rank-2 temperament|rank-2]] [[regular temperament|temperament]] in the [[3-limit|2.3 subgroup]], where it tempers out no commas (providing no additional mappings for intervals other than the pure just structure). As such, all rank-2 temperaments generated by 3/2 and 2/1 in the [[5-limit]] or higher (e.g. [[meantone]]) can be seen as [[extension]]s of Pythagorean tuning. | ||
A series of just fifths can also be considered a reasonable tuning of the [[schismatic]] temperament, where the [[Pythagorean diminished fourth|diminished fourth]] (e.g. | A series of just fifths can also be considered a reasonable tuning of the [[schismatic]] temperament, where the [[Pythagorean diminished fourth|diminished fourth]] (e.g. C–F♭) approximates [[5/4]], since the [[schisma]] is so small. Mark Lindley argues such a system was used in Europe during the 15th century<ref>Mark Lindley, ''Pythagorean Intonation and the Rise of the Triad'', Royal Musical Association Research Chronicle, 1980</ref>, with keyboards tuned to nearly pure fifths as | ||
Mark Lindley<ref>Mark Lindley, ''Pythagorean Intonation and the Rise of the Triad'', Royal Musical Association Research Chronicle, 1980</ref> | |||
: {{dash|G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B}}. | : {{dash| G♭, D♭, A♭, E♭, B♭, F, C, G, D, A, E, B }}. | ||
This makes triads such as {{dash|D, G♭, A}} ({{dash|D, vF#, A}} more intuitively) very close to [[4:5:6]] in this tuning. | |||
It can also be used to generate a more xenharmonic [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]] [[ | It can also be used to generate a more xenharmonic [[2.3.5.13 subgroup]] [[marveltwin]] [[Schismatic family#Tridecaschismic (2.3.5.13)|temperament]], as the triple-augmented fourth C– F♯♯♯ is incredibly close to [[13/8]], differing by the [[tridecapyth comma]] which is even smaller than the schisma. | ||
== Scales == | == Scales == | ||
Pythagorean tuning generates the following [[MOS]] scales: | Pythagorean tuning generates the following [[mos|MOS]] scales: | ||
* [[Pythagorean5]] – proper [[2L 3s]] | * [[Pythagorean5]] – proper [[2L 3s]], also known as pentic, the ''pythagorean pentatonic scale''. | ||
* [[Pythagorean7]] – improper | * [[Pythagorean7]] – improper [[5L 2s]], also known as diatonic,the ''pythagorean diatonic scale''. | ||
* [[Pythagorean12]] – proper [[5L 7s]] | * [[Pythagorean12]] – proper [[5L 7s]], also known as p-chromatic, the ''pythagorean chromatic scale''. | ||
* [[Pythagorean17]] – improper [[12L 5s]] | * [[Pythagorean17]] – improper [[12L 5s]], also known as p-enharmonic, the ''pythagorean enharmonic scale''. | ||
* [[Pythagorean29]] – improper [[12L 17s]]. | * [[Pythagorean29]] – improper [[12L 17s]], sometimes known as ''pythagotonic''. | ||
* [[Pythagorean41]] – proper [[12L 29s]]. | * [[Pythagorean41]] – proper [[12L 29s]], sometimes known as ''pythamystonic.'' | ||
* [[Pythagorean53]] – proper [[41L 12s]]. | * [[Pythagorean53]] – proper [[41L 12s]], sometimes known as ''pythomerc''. | ||
The [[hardness]]es of the Pythagorean scales are about 1.442 for pentic, 2.260 for diatonic, 1.260 for chromatic, 3.846 for enharmonic, | The [[hardness]]es of the Pythagorean scales are about 1.442 for pentic, 2.260 for diatonic, 1.260 for chromatic, 3.846 for enharmonic, 2.8459 for pythagotonic, 1.8459 for pythamystonic, and 1.1822 for pythomerc. Pythamystonic, pentic, p-chromatic and pythomerc generate the softest MOS scales generated by a just fifth as their equalized tunings represent edos with convergent fifths. | ||
== Approaches == | == Approaches == | ||
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== References == | == References == | ||
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[[Category:Tuning]] | [[Category:Tuning]] | ||
[[Category:Listen]] | [[Category:Listen]] | ||