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== Theory ==
== Theory ==
47edo is the first edo that has two [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifths, as both fall between {{nowrap|4\7 {{=}} 686{{c}}}} and {{nowrap|3\5 {{=}} 720{{c}}}}. The fifth closest to [[3/2]] is 12.593-cent flat, unless you use the alternative fifth which is 12.939-cent sharp, similar to [[35edo]]. The soft diatonic scale generated from its flat fifth is so soft, with {{nowrap|L:s {{=}} 7:6}}, that it stops sounding like [[meantone]] or even a [[flattone]] system like [[26edo]] or [[40edo]], but just sounds like a [[circulating temperament]] of [[7edo]]. The hard diatonic scale generated from its sharp fifth is extremely hard, with {{nowrap|L:s {{=}} 9:1}}. It has therefore not aroused much interest, but its best approximation to [[9/8]] is actually quite good, one-third-of-a-cent sharp.
47edo is the first edo that has two [[5L 2s|diatonic]] perfect fifths, as both fall between {{nowrap|4\7 {{=}} 686{{c}}}} and {{nowrap|3\5 {{=}} 720{{c}}}}. The fifth closest to [[3/2]] is 12.593 cents flat of just, unless you use the alternative fifth which is 12.939 cents sharp, similar to [[35edo]]. The soft diatonic scale generated from its flat fifth is so soft, with {{nowrap|L:s {{=}} 7:6}}, that it stops sounding like [[meantone]] or even a [[flattone]] system like [[26edo]] or [[40edo]], but just sounds like a [[circulating temperament]] of [[7edo]]. The hard diatonic scale generated from its sharp fifth is extremely hard, with {{nowrap|L:s {{=}} 9:1}}. It has therefore not aroused much interest, but its best approximation to [[9/8]] is actually quite good, one third of a cent sharp.


47edo is one of the most difficult diatonic edos to notate in [[native fifth notation|native fifths]], because no other diatonic edo's fifth is as extreme.  
47edo is one of the most difficult diatonic edos to notate in [[native fifth notation|native fifths]], because no other diatonic edo's fifth is as extreme.  
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47edo does a good job of approximating the 2.9.5.7.33.13.17.57.69 23-limit [[k*N subgroups|2*47 subgroup]] of the [[23-limit]], on which it tempers out the same commas as [[94edo]]. It provides a good tuning for [[baldy]] and [[silver]] and their relatives. It also provides a good tuning for the [[baseball]] temperament. (''See [[regular temperament]] for more about what all this means and how to use it.'')
47edo does a good job of approximating the 2.9.5.7.33.13.17.57.69 23-limit [[k*N subgroups|2*47 subgroup]] of the [[23-limit]], on which it tempers out the same commas as [[94edo]]. It provides a good tuning for [[baldy]] and [[silver]] and their relatives. It also provides a good tuning for the [[baseball]] temperament.


47edo can be treated as a [[dual-fifth system]] in the 2.3+.3-.5.7.13 subgroup, or the 3+.3-.5.7.11+.11-.13 subgroup for those who aren’t intimidated by lots of [[basis element]]s. As a dual-fifth system, it really shines, as both of its fifths have low enough [[harmonic entropy]] to sound [[consonant]] to many listeners, giving two consonant intervals for the price of one.
47edo can be treated as a [[dual-fifth system]] in the 2.3+.3-.5.7.13 subgroup, or the 3+.3-.5.7.11+.11-.13 subgroup for those who aren’t intimidated by lots of [[basis element]]s. As a dual-fifth system, it really shines, as both of its fifths have low enough [[harmonic entropy]] to sound [[consonant]] to many listeners, giving two consonant intervals for the price of one.
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== Octave stretch or compression ==
47edo's [[prime]] 11 is very sharp, and its sharp and flat mapping of 3 are about equally bad, it can benefit from slight [[octave shrinking]]. [[APS|25.5cET]] or [[ed9/8|8ed9/8]] make good compressed-octave versions of 47edo.


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
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* Quasi-equal [[equiheptatonic]] (Mixolydian): 7 7 6 7 7 6 7
* Quasi-equal [[equiheptatonic]] (Mixolydian): 7 7 6 7 7 6 7
* Quasi-equal [[equipentatonic]]: 9 10 9 10 9
* Quasi-equal [[equipentatonic]]: 9 10 9 10 9
* Sabertooth hexatonic: 3 9 3 13 12 7 (this is the original/default tuning; [[scalesmith|designed]] for the "gold" and "platinum" timbres in [[Scale Workshop]])
* Sabertooth hexatonic{{idio}}: 3 9 3 13 12 7 (this is the original/default tuning; [[scalesmith|designed]] for the "gold" and "platinum" timbres in [[Scale Workshop]])
** Sabertooth pentatonic: 3 9 3 13 19 (this is the original/default tuning)
** Sabertooth pentatonic{{idio}}: 3 9 3 13 19 (this is the original/default tuning)
** Sabertooth neutral: 3 11 14 11 8 (this is the original/default tuning)
** Sabertooth neutral{{idio}}: 3 11 14 11 8 (this is the original/default tuning)


== Instrument mappings ==
== Instruments ==
=== Lumatone ===
* [[Lumatone mapping for 47edo]]
* [[Lumatone mapping for 47edo]]
* [[Skip fretting system 43 3 11]]
 
=== Skip fretting ===
'''Skip fretting system 47 3 11''' is a [[skip-fretting]] system for [[47edo]] where strings are 11\47 and frets are 3\47. This is effectively 15.6666...-edo. All examples of this system on this page are for 5-string bass.
 
; Chords
Neutral-dominant 7th: 1 0 1 2 2


== Music ==
== Music ==
* [https://youtu.be/_TqaWw7tv_E Improvisation in 47edo (octave-compressed tuning, 7-note subset of Negri[9<nowiki>]</nowiki>)] by [[Budjarn Lambeth]], Jan 2024
; [[Budjarn Lambeth]]
* [https://youtu.be/_TqaWw7tv_E ''Improvisation in 47edo''] (2024-01-28) (octave-compressed tuning, 7-note subset of <nowiki>Negri[9]</nowiki>)
 
; [[Bryan Deister]]
* [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fg-MzRBctxc ''47edo improv''] (2026)


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