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''See also: [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Conventions|Conventions]], [[Projects#WikiProjects]], [[Migration FAQ]], as well as [[:Category:Todo]] and its subcategories.''

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=== Javascript strategy ===

Javascript is by default disabled on Mediawiki for security reasons. However, it could be a really really powerful tool for making accessible, interactive explanations for a lot of things. Just as an example, imagine that any number followed by ¢ would automagically create an exemplary audio file like the one linked to at the top of [[octave]]...imagine something like that playing when you hover over the text. Or imagine a [[wikipedia:Lissajous curve|Lissajous curve]] appears in the background when you hover over a just ratio. There are some of us capable in Javascript, and some extant widgets written in Javascript, like [https://ia601408.us.archive.org/1/items/mosedo.html/mosedo.html Billy Stiltner's MOSedo] and [http://untwelve.org/online_tools AKJ's tools]. We need at least a collected xenharmonic Javascript library, and maybe that project can't live here, but it would be nice to see it eventually integrated somehow. [[User:Xenjacob|Xenjacob]] ([[User talk:Xenjacob|talk]]) 15:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

~~=== Add more languages ===~~

This wiki could benefit from [[What languages do various users know?|wiki translators]] to add new languages to this wiki. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 18:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

=== Create pages for the Edo recommendation hub page ===

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And/or create flow charts to help beginners choose edos, and link those on [[Edo recommendation hub page]].

~~: --~~[[Budjarn Lambeth]] 05:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

[[Budjarn Lambeth]] 05:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

=== Create a unified "Chains, circles and spirals" page ===

On the [[Discord]] today, [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] posted the following proposal, it received a lot of upvotes:

::"Chains are basically 1d lattices, probably something worth mentioning in some form.

::Circles and spirals are just different ways to represent chains.

::Therefore, it would make sense to have a single page about chains, circles and spirals.

::The merge doesn't have to be done immediately, of course, but I think that's the best course of action in the long term.

::Chains are relevant not only in edos, but also in rank-2 regular temperaments, where the octave dimension is collapsed (as is common in a circle of fifths, for that matter), leaving only one other generator to stack, making a single chain. Several temperament pages have such chains, for that matter."

[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 07:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

=== Donations link? ===

I'd like to contribute to support the site. Where can I do this? I searched (admittedly several weeks ago now) using "contribute", "contribution", "donate", "donation", "subscribe", and "subscription", but did not find anything. (The home page has a section titled "Contributing to the Xenharmonic Wiki", but it doesn't say anything about contributing money to help run the site.) If a page for this (or some functional equivalent) exists (does one exist?), it should have a link from the home page.

Added: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 21:45, 24 March 2025 (UTC)<br>

Last modified: [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 22:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)

: Me too, and I'd like information about who runs it and how it will stay online when people disappear or lose interest, etc. Too much link rot these days... [[User:ResonantFrequencies|ResonantFrequencies]] ([[User talk:ResonantFrequencies|talk]]) 22:37, 23 December 2025 (UTC)

:: The person who runs it is Tyler Henthorn, contactable on the [[Xenharmonic Alliance]] Facebook groups. He is quite busy at the moment though trying to modify the site so it's less vulnerable to AI scraper bots (which cause lag and downtime) - so he may not be able to reply for a few days due to that.

You can alternatively contact any of the people listed in [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Bureaucrats]] - Flora and Fredg are the most active.

Anyone can make their own backups of the wiki for free - go to [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Backups]] for information on how to do that. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 02:45, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

=== Page counts for subcategories ===

On wikipedia, in a category, each subcategory has its number of pages and subcategories shown. It would be helpful to implement this here as well, especially being useful in [[:Category:Todo]]. [[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 06:03, 13 January 2026 (UTC)

=== To stop formula rendering on all edit summaries ===

We are planning to change the specification so that equation rendering in the edit comments on each page's History/diffs and [[Special:RecentChanges]] is stopped. This is because [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Bugs #Bug_in_interpreting_certain_characters_in_change_comments|it can be inconvenient when trying to include regular expressions for sed commands in edit summaries]]. With this change, raw comments will be displayed, including past edit summaries. We will announce this here, and plan to make the change in about a week. We welcome your opinions. --[[User:Dummy index|Dummy index]] ([[User talk:Dummy index|talk]]) 16:12, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

: Sounds like the right thing for security. [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 21:04, 15 January 2026 (UTC)

=== Protect templates ===

Some templates, such as [[Template:Infobox ET|Infobox ET]], are transcluded onto many pages, and thus should probably be protected. This will prevent vandalism on these templates, as well as safeguard against accidental breakage by inexperienced users. [[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 00:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

: Could you make a list of all the templates that might need to be protected? I think a specific list is more likely to result in something being actioned. I do think this is a broadly good idea. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 02:39, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

:: There is a list of top transcluded pages at [[Special:MostTranscludedPages]]. I think the top 20 should be fully protected, as well as some metatemplates like [[Template:Yesno]], and some character substitution templates. The top 50 or so should be semi-protected, or maybe extended-confirmed (which doesn't exist yet) protected. There's maybe more; that's just a start. [[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 04:14, 15 February 2026 (UTC)

: Have there been issues recently or is it only preventive? I wouldn't want to protect pages excessively either, because that may limit useful contributions as well. If there are specific examples, it might help me understand the current content. (I do skim the recent changes regularly, but I don't necessarily notice all page-breaking changes that may occur.) --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 03:28, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

:: Ok, maybe it wouldn't be necessary right now. Perhaps it could be considered if this wiki becomes larger in the future. --[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 19:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)

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 === Javascript strategy ===
 Javascript is by default disabled on Mediawiki for security reasons. However, it could be a really really powerful tool for making accessible, interactive explanations for a lot of things. Just as an example, imagine that any number followed by ¢ would automagically create an exemplary audio file like the one linked to at the top of [[octave]]...imagine something like that playing when you hover over the text. Or imagine a [[wikipedia:Lissajous curve|Lissajous curve]] appears in the background when you hover over a just ratio. There are some of us capable in Javascript, and some extant widgets written in Javascript, like [https://ia601408.us.archive.org/1/items/mosedo.html/mosedo.html Billy Stiltner's MOSedo] and [http://untwelve.org/online_tools AKJ's tools]. We need at least a collected xenharmonic Javascript library, and maybe that project can't live here, but it would be nice to see it eventually integrated somehow. [[User:Xenjacob|Xenjacob]] ([[User talk:Xenjacob|talk]]) 15:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
-=== Add more languages ===
-This wiki could benefit from [[What languages do various users know?|wiki translators]] to add new languages to this wiki. [[User:PiotrGrochowski|PiotrGrochowski]] ([[User talk:PiotrGrochowski|talk]]) 18:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
 === Create pages for the Edo recommendation hub page ===
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 And/or create flow charts to help beginners choose edos,  and link those on [[Edo recommendation hub page]].
-: --[[Budjarn Lambeth]] 05:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
+[[Budjarn Lambeth]] 05:46, 15 December 2024 (UTC)
+=== Create a unified "Chains, circles and spirals" page ===
+On the [[Discord]] today, [[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] posted the following proposal, it received a lot of upvotes:
+::"Chains are basically 1d lattices, probably something worth mentioning in some form.
+::Circles and spirals are just different ways to represent chains.
+::Therefore, it would make sense to have a single page about chains, circles and spirals.
+::The merge doesn't have to be done immediately, of course, but I think that's the best course of action in the long term.
+::Chains are relevant not only in edos, but also in rank-2 regular temperaments, where the octave dimension is collapsed (as is common in a circle of fifths, for that matter), leaving only one other generator to stack, making a single chain. Several temperament pages have such chains, for that matter."
+[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 07:05, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
+=== Donations link? ===
+I'd like to contribute to support the site.  Where can I do this?  I searched (admittedly several weeks ago now) using "contribute", "contribution", "donate", "donation", "subscribe", and "subscription", but did not find anything. (The home page has a section titled "Contributing to the Xenharmonic Wiki", but it doesn't say anything about contributing money to help run the site.) If a page for this (or some functional equivalent) exists (does one exist?), it should have a link from the home page.
+Added:  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 21:45, 24 March 2025 (UTC)<br>
+Last modified:  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 22:29, 10 September 2025 (UTC)
+: Me too, and I'd like information about who runs it and how it will stay online when people disappear or lose interest, etc.  Too much link rot these days... [[User:ResonantFrequencies|ResonantFrequencies]] ([[User talk:ResonantFrequencies|talk]]) 22:37, 23 December 2025 (UTC)
+:: The person who runs it is Tyler Henthorn, contactable on the [[Xenharmonic Alliance]] Facebook groups. He is quite busy at the moment though trying to modify the site so it's less vulnerable to AI scraper bots (which cause lag and downtime) - so he may not be able to reply for a few days due to that.
+You can alternatively contact any of the people listed in [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Bureaucrats]] - Flora and Fredg are the most active.
+Anyone can make their own backups of the wiki for free - go to [[Xenharmonic Wiki:Backups]] for information on how to do that. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 02:45, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
+=== Page counts for subcategories ===
+On wikipedia, in a category, each subcategory has its number of pages and subcategories shown. It would be helpful to implement this here as well, especially being useful in [[:Category:Todo]]. [[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 06:03, 13 January 2026 (UTC)
+=== To stop formula rendering on all edit summaries ===
+We are planning to change the specification so that equation rendering in the edit comments on each page's History/diffs and [[Special:RecentChanges]] is stopped. This is because [[Xenharmonic Wiki talk:Bugs #Bug_in_interpreting_certain_characters_in_change_comments|it can be inconvenient when trying to include regular expressions for sed commands in edit summaries]]. With this change, raw comments will be displayed, including past edit summaries. We will announce this here, and plan to make the change in about a week. We welcome your opinions. --[[User:Dummy index|Dummy index]] ([[User talk:Dummy index|talk]]) 16:12, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
+: Sounds like the right thing for security.  [[User:Lucius Chiaraviglio|Lucius Chiaraviglio]] ([[User talk:Lucius Chiaraviglio|talk]]) 21:04, 15 January 2026 (UTC)
+=== Protect templates ===
+Some templates, such as [[Template:Infobox ET|Infobox ET]], are transcluded onto many pages, and thus should probably be protected. This will prevent vandalism on these templates, as well as safeguard against accidental breakage by inexperienced users. [[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 00:56, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
+: Could you make a list of all the templates that might need to be protected? I think a specific list is more likely to result in something being actioned. I do think this is a broadly good idea. --[[User:BudjarnLambeth|BudjarnLambeth]] ([[User talk:BudjarnLambeth|talk]]) 02:39, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
+:: There is a list of top transcluded pages at [[Special:MostTranscludedPages]]. I think the top 20 should be fully protected, as well as some metatemplates like [[Template:Yesno]], and some character substitution templates. The top 50 or so should be semi-protected, or maybe extended-confirmed (which doesn't exist yet) protected. There's maybe more; that's just a start. [[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 04:14, 15 February 2026 (UTC)
+: Have there been issues recently or is it only preventive? I wouldn't want to protect pages excessively either, because that may limit useful contributions as well. If there are specific examples, it might help me understand the current content. (I do skim the recent changes regularly, but I don't necessarily notice all page-breaking changes that may occur.) --[[User:Fredg999|Fredg999]] ([[User talk:Fredg999|talk]]) 03:28, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
+:: Ok, maybe it wouldn't be necessary right now. Perhaps it could be considered if this wiki becomes larger in the future. --[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 19:21, 16 February 2026 (UTC)
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