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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
| Ratio = 512/507
| Monzo = 9 -1 0 0 0 -2
| Cents = 16.98968
| Name = tridecimal neutral thirds comma
| Name = tridecimal neutral thirds comma
| Color name =
| Color name = 3uu1, thuthu 1sn,<br>Thuthu comma
| FJS name = A1<sub>169</sub>
| Comma = yes
| Sound =  
}}
}}


'''512/507''', the '''tridecimal neutral thirds comma''', is a [[13-limit]] (also 2.3.13 subgroup) comma with a value of roughly 17.0 [[cent]]s. It is significant in [[just intonation]] as the amount by which the tridecimal neutral third, [[16/13]], differs from its [[fifth complement]], [[39/32]], as well as the amount by which a stack of two [[1053/1024]] quartertones fall short of the [[apotome]].  
'''512/507''', the '''tridecimal neutral thirds comma''', is a [[13-limit]] (also [[2.3.13 subgroup|2.3.13-subgroup]]) [[comma]] with a value of roughly 17.0 [[cent]]s. It is significant in [[just intonation]] as the amount by which the tridecimal neutral third, [[16/13]], differs from its [[fifth complement]], [[39/32]], as well as the amount by which a stack of two [[1053/1024]] quartertones fall short of the [[apotome]].  
 
== Temperaments ==
[[Tempering out]] this comma equates both tridecimal neutral thirds to the true neutral third [[sqrt(3/2)]], and is proposed to be called '''harmoneutral''' temperament by [[User:VectorGraphics|Vector]] in 2025, as it tempers the subharmonic neutral third together with its fifth complement. Tempering it out along with 4096/3993 and 361/352 in 2.3.11.13.19 leads to a temperament proposed to be called ''deltahexacot'' after its ploidacot. 


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Small comma]]
* [[Small comma]]


[[Category:13-limit]]
[[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]
[[Category:Small commas]]

Latest revision as of 00:36, 30 August 2025

Interval information
Ratio 512/507
Factorization 29 × 3-1 × 13-2
Monzo [9 -1 0 0 0 -2
Size in cents 16.98968¢
Name tridecimal neutral thirds comma
Color name 3uu1, thuthu 1sn,
Thuthu comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}_{13,13} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced subharmonic
Tenney height (log2 nd) 17.9858
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 18
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 47
Comma size small
Open this interval in xen-calc

512/507, the tridecimal neutral thirds comma, is a 13-limit (also 2.3.13-subgroup) comma with a value of roughly 17.0 cents. It is significant in just intonation as the amount by which the tridecimal neutral third, 16/13, differs from its fifth complement, 39/32, as well as the amount by which a stack of two 1053/1024 quartertones fall short of the apotome.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma equates both tridecimal neutral thirds to the true neutral third sqrt(3/2), and is proposed to be called harmoneutral temperament by Vector in 2025, as it tempers the subharmonic neutral third together with its fifth complement. Tempering it out along with 4096/3993 and 361/352 in 2.3.11.13.19 leads to a temperament proposed to be called deltahexacot after its ploidacot.

See also