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Subgroup: 2.5.7
Subgroup: 2.5.7


Comma basis: 372 -159 -1
Comma basis: {{monzo|372 -159 -1}}


Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 2 54 -177 52}}, {{val|0 1 -159 -539 173}}]
Sval mapping: [{{val| 1 2 54}}, {{val|0 1 -159}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.360
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.360


Vals: 205, 264, 469, 733, 997, 1261, 1525, 1789, ...
Vals: {{EDOs|205, 264, 469, 733, 997, 1261, 1525, 1789}}, ...


=== 2.5.7.11 subgroup ===
=== 2.5.7.11 subgroup ===
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.5.7.11


Comma basis: -49 8 17 -5, 45 -27 10 -3
Comma basis: {{monzo|-49 8 17 -5}}, {{monzo|45 -27 10 -3}}


Sval mapping:  [{{val| 1 2 54 -177 52}}, {{val|0 1 -159 -539 173}}]
Sval mapping:  [{{val| 1 2 54 -177}}, {{val|0 1 -159 -539}}]


Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.361
Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.361

Revision as of 14:26, 8 December 2022

This is a collection of subgroup temperaments which omit the prime harmonic of 3.

Llywelyn aka shoe

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma list: 4194304/4117715

Sval mapping: [1 1 3], 0 7 -1]]

Mapping generators: 2, ~8/7

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3], 0 0 7 -1]]

Gencom: [2 8/7; 4194304/4117715]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 226.910

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2.5.7.11 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma list: 176/175, 1310720/1294139

Sval mapping: [1 1 3 1], 0 7 -1 13]]

Gencom: [2 8/7; 176/175 1310720/1294139]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3 1], 0 0 7 -1 13]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 227.114

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

2.5.7.11.13 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 176/175, 640/637, 847/845

Sval mapping: [1 1 3 1 2], 0 7 -1 13 9]]

Gencom: [2 8/7; 176/175 640/637, 1304576/1294139]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3 1 2], 0 0 7 -1 13 9]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 227.108

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17

Comma list: 176/175, 221/200, 640/637, 833/832

Sval mapping: [1 1 3 1 2 2], 0 7 -1 13 9 11]]

Gencom: [2 8/7; 176/175 221/200, 640/637, 833/832]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 1 3 1 2 2], 0 0 7 -1 13 9 11]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~8/7 = 227.242

Optimal GPV sequence: Template:Val list

Didacus

Related temperaments: roulette, hemithirds

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma list: 3136/3125

Sval mapping: [1 2 2], 0 2 5]]

Gencom: [2 28/25; 3136/3125]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 2 2], 0 0 2 5]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~28/25 = 93.772

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RMS error: 0.2138 cents

Rainy

Three generators make an 8/7; five generators make a 5/4. This is the no-threes version of tertiaseptal.

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma list: 2100875/2097152

Sval mapping: [1 2 3], 0 5 -3]]

Gencom: [2 256/245; 2100875/2097152]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 2 3], 0 0 5 -3]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~256/245 = 77.205

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RMS error: 0.0586 cents

Mercy

Two generators make an 8/7; seven generators make an 8/5. Mercy can be thought of as a way to conceptualize the 2.5.7.13.17.19 subgroup of 31edo, and is the no-threes or elevens version of miracle.

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma list: 823543/819200

Sval mapping: [1 3 3], 0 -7 -2]]

Gencom: [2 2744/2560; 823543/819200]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 3 3], 0 0 -7 -2]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~343/320 = 116.291

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2.5.7.13

Subgroup: 2.5.7.13

Comma list: 343/338, 640/637

Sval mapping: [1 3 3 4], 0 -7 -2 -3]]

Gencom: [2 14/13; 343/338 640/637]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 3 3 4], 0 0 -7 -2 -3]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~14/13 = 116.094

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2.5.7.13.17

Subgroup: 2.5.7.13.17

Comma list: 170/169, 224/221, 640/637

Sval mapping: [1 3 3 4 4], 0 -7 -2 -3 1]]

Gencom: [2 14/13; 170/169 224/221 640/637]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 3 3 4 4], 0 0 -7 -2 -3 1]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~14/13 = 115.769

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2.5.7.13.17.19

Subgroup: 2.5.7.13.17.19

Comma list: 170/169, 343/338, 640/637, 16384/16055

Sval mapping: [1 3 3 4 4 3], 0 -7 -2 -3 1 13]]

Gencom mapping: [1 0 3 3 4 4 3], 0 0 -7 -2 -3 1 13]]

Gencom: [2 14/13; 170/169 343/338 640/637 16384/16055]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~14/13 = 115.716

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Pakkanen (rank 3)

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma list: 625/616

Optimal tuning (TE): ~2/1 = 1200.6544, ~5/4 = 380.3004, ~11/8 = 551.9653

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Frostburn

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma list: 245/242, 625/616

Optimal tuning (TE): ~2/1 = 1200.6817, ~28/25 = 205.0745

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Yer (rank 3)

Subgroup: 2.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 209/208, 2057/2048

Sval mapping: [1 0 0 11 4], 0 1 0 -2 -1], 0 0 1 0 1]]

Optimal tuning (TE): ~2/1 = 1200.4457, ~11/8 = 548.4934, ~16/13 = 358.638

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Yamablu

Yamablu, with a generator of ~17/13, is named for its tempering of the yama comma (209/208) and the blume comma (2057/2048), which also implies the blumeyer comma (2432/2431). The 13th Yamablu[13] scale is a linear-temperament version of Gjaeck.

Subgroup: 2.11.13.17.19

Comma list: 209/208, 2057/2048, 83521/83486

Sval mapping: [1 5 1 1 0], 0 -4 7 8 11]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~17/13 = 462.9606

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RMS error: 0.4898 cents

Ostara

Ostara is a temperament that is derived from 93 & 524 solar calendar leap rule scale. It was initially defined by taking the 2.7.13.17.19 subgroup, but it can also be intepreted in general no-threes 19-limit.

Ostara can also refer to a collection of temperaments which temper out 16807/16796.

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma list: 8589934592/8544921875, 53710650917/53687091200

Mapping: [1 1 20 -49], 0 3 -39 119]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~5120/3773 = 529.003¢

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2.5.7.11.13 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13

Comma list: 1001/1000, 34420736/34328125, 5670699008/5661858125

Sval Mapping: [1 1 20 -49 35], 0 3 -39 119 -71]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~1664/1225 = 529.003¢

2.5.7.11.13.17 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17

Sval Mapping: [1 1 20 -49 35 42], 0 3 -39 119 -71 -86]]

Comma list: 1001/1000, 32768/32725, 147968/147875, 537824/537251

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~1664/1225 = 529.003¢

2.5.7.11.13.17.19 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13.17.19

Sval Mapping: [1 1 20 -49 35 42], 0 3 -39 119 -71 -86]]

Comma list: 1001/1000, 2128/2125, 3328/3325, 16807/16796, 147968/147875

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~19/14 = 529.003¢

Pure onzonic

The 2.5.11.13 subgroup primarily contains temperaments developed for 1789edo, since it tempers out the jacobin comma 6656/6655, for which 2.5.11.13 is the subgroup, and the year 1789 is hallmark for the French revolution.

Subgroup: 2.5.11.13

Comma list: 6656/6655, [-119 -46 15 47

Mapping: [1 74 3 74], 0 -156 1 -153]]

Optimal tuning (POTE): ~11/8 = 551.370

Optimal GPV sequence: 37, 1789

Tricesimoprimal miracloid

Described as the 52 & 1789 temperament in the 2.5.7.11.19.29.31 subgroup, with harmonics specifically selected for 52edo and 1789edo. Its generator is 31/29, which is also close to the secor. Since it is conceived as the temperament in the above specific subgroup, it makes no sense to name it for smaller subgroups. In terms of microtempering, a circle of 52 generators is essentially a barely noticeable well temperament for 52edo.

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.19.29.31

Comma list: 10241/10240, 5858783/5856400, 4093705/4090624, 15109493/15089800, 102942875/102834688

Sval Mapping: [1 419 48 177 157 624 625], 0 -461 -50 -192 -169 -685 -686]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~58/31 = 1084.628

Vals: 52, 1737, 1789, ...

French decimal

Conceived upon the fact that 1789edo has an excellent 5/4, and uses it as the generator. This rings particularly true for the French attempts to decimalize a lot more things than we are used to today. Using the maximal evenness method of finding rank-2 temperaments, a 1525 & 1789 temperament is obtained.

Subgroup: 2.5.7

Comma basis: [372 -159 -1

Sval mapping: [1 2 54], 0 1 -159]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.360

Vals: 205, 264, 469, 733, 997, 1261, 1525, 1789, ...

2.5.7.11 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11

Comma basis: [-49 8 17 -5, [45 -27 10 -3

Sval mapping: [1 2 54 -177], 0 1 -159 -539]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.361

Vals: 264, 733, ...

2.5.7.11.13 subgroup

Subgroup: 2.5.7.11.13

Comma basis: 28824005/28792192, 200126927/200000000, 6106906624/6103515625

Sval mapping: [1 2 54 -177 52], 0 1 -159 -539 173]]

Optimal tuning (CTE): ~5/4 = 386.361

Vals: 1525, 1789, ...