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{{Infobox Interval
{{Infobox Interval
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| Ratio = 12/11
| Ratio = 12/11
| Monzo = 2 1 0 0 -1
| Monzo = 2 1 0 0 -1
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| Sound = jid_12_11_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
| Sound = jid_12_11_pluck_adu_dr220.mp3
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{{Wikipedia|Neutral second}}


'''12/11''', the '''undecimal neutral second''' or '''(lesser) neutral second''', is a strangely exotic interval found between the 11th and 12th partials of the harmonic series. In Just Intonation it is represented by the [[superparticular]] ratio 12/11, and is about 150.6 [[cent]]s large. One step of [[8edo]] is an excellent approximation of the just neutral second, and eight of them exceed the octave by the comma (12/11)<sup>8</sup>/2 = {{Monzo|15 8 0 0 -8}}. It follows that EDOs which are multiples of 8, such as [[16edo]] and [[24edo]], will also represent this interval well.
'''12/11''', the '''undecimal neutral second''' or '''(lesser) neutral second''', is a strangely exotic interval found between the 11th and 12th partials of the [[harmonic series]]. In [[just intonation]] it is represented by the [[superparticular]] ratio 12/11, and is about 150.6 [[cent]]s large. One step of [[8edo]] is an excellent approximation of the just neutral second, and eight of them exceed the octave by the comma (12/11)<sup>8</sup>/2 = {{Monzo|15 8 0 0 -8}}. It follows that EDOs which are multiples of 8, such as [[16edo]] and [[24edo]], will also represent this interval well.


12/11 differs from the larger undecimal neutral second [[11/10]] (~165 cents) by [[121/120]] (~14.4 cents). Temperaments which conflate the two (thus tempering out 121/120) include [[15edo]], [[22edo]], [[31edo]], [[orwell]], [[porcupine]], [[mohajira]], [[valentine]], etc.
12/11 differs from the larger undecimal neutral second [[11/10]] (~165 cents) by [[121/120]] (~14.4 cents). Temperaments which conflate the two (thus tempering out 121/120) include [[15edo]], [[22edo]], [[31edo]], [[orwell]], [[porcupine]], [[mohajira]], [[valentine]], etc.
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[[Category:11-limit]]
[[Category:11-limit]]
[[Category:Interval ratio]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Just interval]]
[[Category:Neutral second]]
[[Category:Neutral second]]
[[Category:Second]]
[[Category:Superparticular]]
[[Category:Superparticular]]
[[Category:Over-11]]
[[Category:Over-11]]

Revision as of 17:06, 11 March 2022

Interval information
Ratio 12/11
Factorization 22 × 3 × 11-1
Monzo [2 1 0 0 -1
Size in cents 150.6371¢
Name undecimal neutral second
Color name 1u2, lu 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{M2}_{11} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 7.04439
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 7.16993
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 18

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12/11, the undecimal neutral second or (lesser) neutral second, is a strangely exotic interval found between the 11th and 12th partials of the harmonic series. In just intonation it is represented by the superparticular ratio 12/11, and is about 150.6 cents large. One step of 8edo is an excellent approximation of the just neutral second, and eight of them exceed the octave by the comma (12/11)8/2 = [15 8 0 0 -8. It follows that EDOs which are multiples of 8, such as 16edo and 24edo, will also represent this interval well.

12/11 differs from the larger undecimal neutral second 11/10 (~165 cents) by 121/120 (~14.4 cents). Temperaments which conflate the two (thus tempering out 121/120) include 15edo, 22edo, 31edo, orwell, porcupine, mohajira, valentine, etc.

See also