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|+ Common Diasem Tunings | |+ Common Diasem Tunings | ||
! rowspan="2" |Tuning | |||
! rowspan="2" |L:m:s | |||
! rowspan="2" |Good Just Approximations | |||
! rowspan="2" |other comments | |||
! colspan="8" |Degrees | |||
|- | |- | ||
!1!!2!!3!!4!!5 !!6 !! 7!!8 | |||
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| || 9/8||7/6||21/16||4/3||3/2|| 14/9 ||7/4 ||16/9 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| JI || 7.479:2.309:1 || Just 7/6, 8/7, and 3/2 | | |JI||7.479:2.309:1||Just 7/6, 8/7, and 3/2 | ||
| || 203.910||266.871||470.781 ||498.045||701.955 || 764.916||968.826||996.090 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | 21edo | ||
|3:2:1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|171.429 | |||
|285.714 | |||
|457.143 | |||
| 514.286 | |||
|685.714 | |||
|800 | |||
|971.429 | |||
|1028.571 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | |26edo||4:2:1 ||Neogothic thirds and 8/7 | ||
| ||184.615||276.923 ||461.538 ||507.692 ||692.308||784.615|| 969.231||1015.385 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| 36edo || 6:2:1 || Septimal thirds and 3/2 | | | 28edo | ||
|4:3:1 | |||
|Pental thirds | |||
| | |||
| 171.429 | |||
|300 | |||
| 471.429 | |||
|514.286 | |||
|685.714 | |||
|771.429 | |||
|985.714 | |||
|1028.571 | |||
|- | |||
|30edo | |||
| 4:3:2 | |||
| | |||
| cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|160 | |||
|280 | |||
|440 | |||
|520 | |||
| 680 | |||
|800 | |||
|960 | |||
|1040 | |||
|- | |||
|31edo||5:2:1||Pental thirds and 7/5 | |||
| ||193.548||270.968||464.516||503.226||696.774|| 774.194||967.742||1006.452 | |||
|- | |||
|33edo | |||
|5:3:1 | |||
|Septimal and Neogothic thirds and 10/9 | |||
| | |||
| 181.818 | |||
|290.909 | |||
|472.727 | |||
| 509.091 | |||
|690.909 | |||
|763.636 | |||
| 981.818 | |||
|1018.182 | |||
|- | |||
|35edo | |||
| 5:3:2 | |||
5:4:1 | |||
| | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|171.429 | |||
|274.286 | |||
308.571 | |||
|445.714 | |||
480 | |||
|514.286 | |||
|685.714 | |||
|788.571 | |||
822.857 | |||
|960 | |||
994.286 | |||
|1028.571 | |||
|- | |||
|36edo||6:2:1||Septimal thirds and 3/2 | |||
| ||200.000||266.667|| 466.667|| 500.000|| 700.000||766.667||966.667||1000.000 | |||
|- | |||
|37edo | |||
|5:4:2 | |||
|35/32 | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|162.162 | |||
|291.892 | |||
|454.054 | |||
|518.919 | |||
|681.081 | |||
|810.811 | |||
|972.973 | |||
|1037.838 | |||
|- | |||
|38edo | |||
|6:3:1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|189.474 | |||
|284.2105 | |||
|473.684 | |||
|505.263 | |||
| 694.737 | |||
| 789.474 | |||
| 978.947 | |||
|1010.526 | |||
|- | |||
|39edo | |||
|5:4:3 | |||
| | |||
| cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|153.846 | |||
|276.923 | |||
|430.769 | |||
|523.077 | |||
|676.923 | |||
|800 | |||
|953.846 | |||
| 1046.154 | |||
|- | |||
|40edo | |||
|6:3:2 | |||
6:4:1 | |||
| | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
| 180 | |||
| 270 | |||
300 | |||
|450 | |||
480 | |||
| 510 | |||
|690 | |||
| 780 | |||
810 | |||
|960 | |||
990 | |||
|1020 | |||
|- | |||
|41edo | |||
|7:2:1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|204.878 | |||
|263.415 | |||
|468.293 | |||
|497.561 | |||
|702.439 | |||
|760.976 | |||
| 965.854 | |||
|995.122 | |||
|- | |||
| 42edo | |||
|6:5:1 | |||
| | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|171.429 | |||
| 314.286 | |||
|485.714 | |||
|514.286 | |||
|685.714 | |||
|828.571 | |||
|1000 | |||
|1028.571 | |||
|- | |||
|43edo | |||
|7:3:1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|195.349 | |||
|279.07 | |||
|474.419 | |||
|502.326 | |||
|697.674 | |||
|781.395 | |||
|976.744 | |||
|1004.651 | |||
|- | |||
|44edo | |||
|6:4:3 | |||
6:5:2 | |||
|11/10 (and 9/7) | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|163.636 | |||
|272.727 | |||
300 | |||
|436.364 | |||
463.636 | |||
|518.182 | |||
|681.818 | |||
|790.909 | |||
818.182 | |||
|954.5455 | |||
981.818 | |||
|1036.364 | |||
|- | |||
|45edo | |||
|7:3:2 | |||
7:4:1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|186.667 | |||
|266.667 | |||
293.333 | |||
|453.333 | |||
480 | |||
|506.667 | |||
|693.333 | |||
|773.333 | |||
800 | |||
|960 | |||
986.667 | |||
|1013.333 | |||
|- | |||
|46edo | |||
|6:5:3 | |||
8:2:1 | |||
|Neogothic thirds | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
Gentle fifth | |||
|156.522 | |||
208.696 | |||
|286.9565 | |||
260.87 | |||
|443.478 | |||
469.565 | |||
|521.739 | |||
495.652 | |||
|678.231 | |||
704.348 | |||
|808.696 | |||
756.522 | |||
|965.218 | |||
|1043.418 | |||
991.314 | |||
|- | |||
|47edo | |||
|7:4:2 | |||
7:5:1 | |||
| | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|178.723 | |||
|280.851 | |||
306.383 | |||
|459.578 | |||
485.106 | |||
|510.638 | |||
|689.362 | |||
|791.489 | |||
817.021 | |||
|970.212 | |||
995.744 | |||
|1021.27h | |||
|- | |||
|48edo | |||
|6:5:4 | |||
8:3:1 | |||
| | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|150 | |||
200 | |||
|275 | |||
|425 | |||
475 | |||
|525 | |||
500 | |||
|675 | |||
700 | |||
|800 | |||
775 | |||
|950 | |||
975 | |||
|1050 | |||
1000 | |||
|- | |||
|49edo | |||
|7:4:3 | |||
7:5:2 | |||
7:6:1 | |||
| | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|171.429 | |||
|269.388 | |||
293.878 | |||
318.367 | |||
|440.817 | |||
465.756 | |||
489.796 | |||
|514.286 | |||
|685.714 | |||
|783.6735 | |||
808.163 | |||
832.653 | |||
|955.102 | |||
979.592 | |||
1004.082 | |||
|1028.571 | |||
|- | |||
|50edo | |||
|8:3:2 | |||
8:4:1 | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|192 | |||
|264 | |||
288 | |||
|456 | |||
480 | |||
|504 | |||
|696 | |||
|768 | |||
792 | |||
|960 | |||
984 | |||
|1008 | |||
|- | |||
|51edo | |||
|7:5:3 | |||
7:6:2 | |||
| | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|164.706 | |||
|282.353 | |||
305.882 | |||
|447.059 | |||
470.588 | |||
|517.647 | |||
|682.353 | |||
|800 | |||
823.529 | |||
|964.706 | |||
988.235 | |||
|1035.294 | |||
|- | |||
|52edo | |||
|8:5:1 | |||
| | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|184.615 | |||
|300 | |||
|484.615 | |||
|507.692 | |||
|692.308 | |||
|807.692 | |||
|992.308 | |||
|1015.385 | |||
|- | |||
|53edo | |||
|7:5:4 | |||
7:6:3 | |||
|27/20 | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|158.491 | |||
|271.698 | |||
294.34 | |||
|429.189 | |||
452.831 | |||
|520.755 | |||
|679.245 | |||
|792.453 | |||
815.094 | |||
|950.944 | |||
973.585 | |||
|1041.509 | |||
|- | |||
|54edo | |||
|8:4:3 | |||
8:5:2 | |||
8:6:1 | |||
|Septimal thirds | |||
Neogothic thirds | |||
|Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|177.778 | |||
|266.667 | |||
288.889 | |||
311.111 | |||
|444.444 | |||
466.667 | |||
488.889 | |||
|511.111 | |||
|688.889 | |||
|777.778 | |||
800 | |||
822.222 | |||
|955.556 | |||
977.778 | |||
1000 | |||
|1022.222 | |||
|- | |||
|55edo | |||
|7:6:4 | |||
| | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|152.727 | |||
|283.636 | |||
|436.364 | |||
|523.636 | |||
|676.364 | |||
|807.273 | |||
|960 | |||
|1047.273 | |||
|- | |||
|56edo | |||
|8:5:3 | |||
8:7:1 | |||
| | |||
|Golden tuning | |||
Uses 21/16 as inconsistent 4/3 | |||
|171.429 | |||
|278.571 | |||
321.429 | |||
|450 | |||
492.857 | |||
|514.286 | |||
|685.714 | |||
|792.857 | |||
814.286 | |||
|964.286 | |||
985.714 | |||
|1028.571 | |||
|- | |||
|57edo | |||
|7:6:5 | |||
| | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|147.368 | |||
|273.684 | |||
|421.053 | |||
|526.316 | |||
|673.684 | |||
|800 | |||
|947.368 | |||
|1052.684 | |||
|- | |||
|58edo | |||
|8:5:4 | |||
8:6:3 | |||
8:7:2 | |||
|(Septimal and) Neogothic thirds | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|165.517 | |||
|268.9655 | |||
290.394 | |||
311.084 | |||
|435.222 | |||
455.911 | |||
476.601 | |||
|517.98 | |||
|682.02 | |||
|786.946 | |||
807.6355 | |||
828.325 | |||
|952.463 | |||
973.153 | |||
993.842 | |||
|1034.483 | |||
|- | |||
|60edo | |||
|8:7:3 | |||
| | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|160 | |||
|300 | |||
|460 | |||
|520 | |||
|680 | |||
|820 | |||
|980 | |||
|1040 | |||
|- | |||
|62edo | |||
|8:7:4 | |||
|Neogothic thirds | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|154.839 | |||
|290.323 | |||
|445.161 | |||
|522.581 | |||
|677.419 | |||
|812.903 | |||
|967.742 | |||
|1045.161 | |||
|- | |||
|64edo | |||
|8:7:5 | |||
| | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|150 | |||
|281.25 | |||
|431.25 | |||
|525 | |||
|675 | |||
|806.25 | |||
|956.25 | |||
|1050 | |||
|- | |||
|66edo | |||
|8:7:6 | |||
|Neogothic thirds | |||
|cross between Mavila and Semaphore | |||
|145.4545 | |||
|272.727 | |||
|418.182 | |||
|527.273 | |||
|672.727 | |||
|800 | |||
|945.4545 | |||
|1054.5455 | |||
|} | |} | ||
Like [[superpyth]], diasem is great for diatonic melodies in the 2.3.7 subgroup; however, it does not temper 64/63, adding two diesis-sized steps to what would normally be a diatonic scale. Not tempering 64/63 is actually quite useful, because it's the difference between only two 4/3 and a 7/4, so the error is spread over just two perfect fourths, unlike the syntonic comma where the error is spread out over four perfect fifths. As a result, the results of tempering out [[81/80]] are not as bad, because each fifth only needs to be bent by about half as much to achieve the same optimization for the 5-limit. So in the case of 2.3.7, it may actually be worth it to accept the addition of small step sizes in order to improve tuning accuracy. Another advantage of detempering the septimal comma is that it allows one to use both 9/8 and 8/7, as well as 21/16 and 4/3, in the same scale. Semaphore in a sense does the opposite of what superpyth does, exaggerating 64/63 to the point that 21/16 is no longer recognizable, and the small steps of diasem become equal to the medium steps. | Like [[superpyth]], diasem is great for diatonic melodies in the 2.3.7 subgroup; however, it does not temper 64/63, adding two diesis-sized steps to what would normally be a diatonic scale. Not tempering 64/63 is actually quite useful, because it's the difference between only two 4/3 and a 7/4, so the error is spread over just two perfect fourths, unlike the syntonic comma where the error is spread out over four perfect fifths. As a result, the results of tempering out [[81/80]] are not as bad, because each fifth only needs to be bent by about half as much to achieve the same optimization for the 5-limit. So in the case of 2.3.7, it may actually be worth it to accept the addition of small step sizes in order to improve tuning accuracy. Another advantage of detempering the septimal comma is that it allows one to use both 9/8 and 8/7, as well as 21/16 and 4/3, in the same scale. Semaphore in a sense does the opposite of what superpyth does, exaggerating 64/63 to the point that 21/16 is no longer recognizable, and the small steps of diasem become equal to the medium steps. | ||
== Links == | ==Links== | ||
* [https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop/?name=JI%20Diasem&data=9%2F8%0A7%2F6%0A21%2F16%0A4%2F3%0A3%2F2%0A14%2F9%0A7%2F4%0A16%2F9%0A2%2F1&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=square&env=organ Play JI diasem] - Sevish Scale Workshop | *[https://sevish.com/scaleworkshop/?name=JI%20Diasem&data=9%2F8%0A7%2F6%0A21%2F16%0A4%2F3%0A3%2F2%0A14%2F9%0A7%2F4%0A16%2F9%0A2%2F1&freq=440&midi=69&vert=5&horiz=1&colors=white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black%20white%20white%20black%20white%20black&waveform=square&env=organ Play JI diasem] - Sevish Scale Workshop | ||
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