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: @TallKite maybe you give a guide? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 03:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
: @TallKite maybe you give a guide? [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 03:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)


:: I do know that the default quartismic temperament only tempers out the quartisma, and seems to be rank-4, with the best candidate being [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=270_159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one].
:: Hi, glad to help. Yes, the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament is rank-4. The no-fives 2.3.7.11 temperament is rank-3. The rank is always the number of primes minus the number of linearly independent (i.e. non-redundant) commas.


:: I also know that the Altierran temperaments are defined by tempering out the schisma as well as the quartisma... --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 03:28, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
:: There's a few missing EDOs from the first paragraph. 21, 25, 43, 45, 46 and 67.


:: So far, one of the best candidates for the Altierran temperament proper is [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=159_224_472&limit=11&tuning=po this one]. (Preceding unsigned comment by [[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]))
:: I can't make sense of the scale tree link. The two rank-2 scales don't make much sense to me as Quartismic scales because they both lack a 3/2 or a 4/3. Plus they're rank-2, not rank-3.


:: Of course, there's also [http://x31eq.com/cgi-bin/rt.cgi?ets=2159_1236_270_494&limit=11&tuning=po this temperament] as a pure temperament of the quartisma, but this one doesn't seem to be as accessible as the other one. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 04:15, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
:: BTW the @ sign doesn't work to tag me. Next time post on my user page or ask me on Facebook. --[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 06:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
 
:: So thanks to Sam, we have several other names for other temperaments that temper out the quartisma- Coin (which also tempers out the magic comma), Meanquarter (which also tempers out the meantone comma), Kleirtismic (which also tempers out the 5-limit kleisma- the "kleir-" in "Kleirtismic being pronounced like "Clair"), and Doublefour (which also tempers out the tetracot comma). --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 15:57, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

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I see that there are listings of no-five mappings, no-five POTE generators, and no-five EDOs that relate to quartismic temperaments... What about listings for EDOs and temperaments in the quartismic family that do make use of the 5-limit? --Aura (talk) 04:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sorry about deleting so much data, and making such a mess, but after finding this site, I'm trying to improve the definition of the base quartismic temperament, and I'm trying to make space for us to better define the temperaments that belong to the quartismic family. Second-guessing myself about stuff hasn't helped matters. --Aura (talk) 02:58, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Afaik the full 11-limit family is of rank 4 and should be a separate page. The 2.3.7.11 temperament is of rank 3 and belongs here. cf. Valinorismic temperaments. For rank-3 full 11-limit children you add an additional comma and they also belong here.
@TallKite maybe you give a guide? FloraC (talk) 03:14, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
Hi, glad to help. Yes, the full 2.3.5.7.11 temperament is rank-4. The no-fives 2.3.7.11 temperament is rank-3. The rank is always the number of primes minus the number of linearly independent (i.e. non-redundant) commas.
There's a few missing EDOs from the first paragraph. 21, 25, 43, 45, 46 and 67.
I can't make sense of the scale tree link. The two rank-2 scales don't make much sense to me as Quartismic scales because they both lack a 3/2 or a 4/3. Plus they're rank-2, not rank-3.
BTW the @ sign doesn't work to tag me. Next time post on my user page or ask me on Facebook. --TallKite (talk) 06:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)