User talk:Inthar

Minimalist user page

Hi IlL,

It would really help others to understand your edits with a few words of background on your user page. As I see in 13edo/Inthar, your user name "IlL" has a relation to "Inthar"? Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 08:38, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I usually go by Inthar now. (IlL is my username on Linguifex (it used to stand for a name) and I retconned it later using a different conlang.) IlL (talk) 17:19, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

I see, thanks for adding the information. --Xenwolf (talk) 21:17, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Difference between clan and family

Hi Inthar,
I have difficulties to understand the relationship between family and clan. At first I thought it's basically the same, but now I see that there ia a Sensamagic clan and a Sensamagic family. Since you write very actively in all parts of the wiki, I was hoping you might be able to help me in this matter. Thanks in advance!
--Xenwolf (talk) 17:25, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

I don't really know either, since these terms aren't formally defined anywhere on the wiki. But from what I understand they look like synonyms ("the set of rank 2 temperaments that temper out a given comma"). IlL (talk) 17:33, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Thanks so far. It seems to me that it would help to establish a place in the wiki where such questions could be asked and answered. --Xenwolf (talk) 18:03, 9 June 2020 (UTC)

Do you know the preview function?

Hi Inthar,
Looking on the massive amount of relatively small changes you are doing (for instance on User:IlL/13edo), I was wondering if you maybe don't know about the preview function. This function is faster than a complete save and gives you a good feedback (as I know, there is no quality difference in the rendering between the saved version and the preview). But maybe you already know this function and there is an issue with your mobile device that makes it inaccessible to you. If this is the case, I say sorry for bothering.
have a great day --Xenwolf (talk) 21:40, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Managing subpages

Hi Inthar,
Managing subpage links can be tedious. There is a wiki function that creates lists of pages with a specific prefix, it can be used to enumerate subpages.
The following snippet extracts the pagename from the page it's places in, so this could be used on your user page as well:

{{Special:PrefixIndex/{{FULLPAGENAME}}/}}

Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 07:55, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Now I found an (in my opinion) better way to use this function:

{{Special:Prefixindex|prefix={{FULLPAGENAME}}/|hideredirects=1|stripprefix=1}}

it provides the prefix as an argument and has two optional switches. Maybe this can be helpful for you as well.

--Xenwolf (talk) 08:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

PS: when looking on User:IlL/Best edos for a given subgroup, I found that we maybe have to few links to Graham Breed's temp finder in the wiki. 😉

bolded harmonics

Hi Inthar,
I just removed bolded rations that not only me led to confusion (the intention wasn't visible), now I see what the idea is. I'm not arguing pro or con "bolding harmonics" but if you bolded harmonics why didn't you write its meaning in the page as well. You will admit that nobody wants to read the history as to understand the contents. Thanks in advance for considering this in future typographic improvements.
Best regards --Xenwolf (talk) 11:06, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Degree question

If/when you have the time: would you please have a look on Talk:17edo neutral scale? Thanks --Xenwolf (talk) 11:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm sorry, nothing changed from my POV. --Xenwolf (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Finally got it. Please have another look on the page to ensure I explained it correctly. --Xenwolf (talk) 15:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Quartismic EDOs

Okay, Inthar, now that I know that EDOs that temper out the quartisma have to be a sum of various multiples of 24, 46, and 159, I think the first possible quartismic EDO on the list after 159edo is 229edo, the next would be 253edo, and after that would be 275edo and 277edo, then 321edo and 325edo... Wow... I hope we can confirm all this... --Aura (talk) 04:42, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

BTW, 22 also seems to be a quartismic edo. (It's 46 - 24.) IlL (talk) 04:45, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

So you can use differences between the defining EDOs for this as well... What's more, the patent vals of 22edo confirm your finding... Nice... --Aura (talk) 04:54, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

With that in mind, I'm guessing that we can expect 48edo, 50edo, 70edo, 72edo, 92edo and 96edo to also be quartismic EDOs, right? --Aura (talk) 05:06, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

Wait... 50edo doesn't temper out the quartisma in its patent vals despite being (4*24 - 46), I just checked... --Aura (talk) 05:06, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

However, I do notice that 46 is 22 + 24, so maybe 22edo is actually the independent value we should be using instead of 46... --Aura (talk) 05:11, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I see that 70 is 48 + 22, and from the looks of things, 70edo seems to work... Hmm... if 22 is actually the independent number rather than 46, then that means that 68edo should also work as it is 2*22 + 24... --Aura (talk) 05:14, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I can confirm from my calculation that 68edo is a very good quartismic EDO... This means that the quartismic EDOs are actually all of the form 22A + 24B + 159C... --Aura (talk) 05:20, 7 September 2020 (UTC)