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'''Vengeance''' (CompactStar's name) or '''pentagoth''' (groundfault's and Userminusone's name) is a 2.5.17 [[subgroup temperament]]. It is notable for having a structure similar to [[mavila]] with an [[2L 5s|antidiatonic scale]] and [[7L 2s|superdiatonic scale]]  but being comparatively very low in [[error]] and [[badness]], because the flat fifth generator is represented by [[25/17]] rather than [[3/2]] (or equivalently, [[34/25]] rather than [[4/3]]). It is defined by [[tempering out]] the [[comma]] [[78608/78125]]. The name "vengeance' was coined by [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] and derives from 25/17's name as the "vengeance subfifth". Like with mavila, 3 generators reach the major third represented by [[5/4]], but the minor third is represented by [[20/17]]. The minor triad is 17:20:25, which makes it far simpler than the major triad of 68:85:100, in contrast to [[5-limit]] major and minor triads as used in mavila and meantone.
'''Vengeance''' is a 2.5.17 [[subgroup temperament]]. It is notable for having a structure similar to [[mavila]] with an [[2L 5s|antidiatonic scale]] and [[7L 2s|superdiatonic scale]]  but being comparatively very low in [[error]] and [[badness]], because the flat fifth generator is represented by [[25/17]] rather than [[3/2]] (or equivalently, [[34/25]] rather than [[4/3]]). It is defined by [[tempering out]] the [[comma]] [[78608/78125]]. The name "vengeance' was coined by [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] and derives from 25/17's name as the "vengeance subfifth". Like with mavila, 3 generators reach the major third represented by [[5/4]], but the minor third is represented by [[20/17]]. The minor triad is 17:20:25, which makes it far simpler than the major triad of 68:85:100, in contrast to [[5-limit]] major and minor triads as used in mavila and meantone.  
 
Pentagoth was defined by ground and Userminusone as having an extension to the 2.5.13/11.17 subgroup that identifies 20/17 and [[13/11]] by tempering out [[221/220]]. The [[eigenmonzo|exact]]-13/11 tuning is 672.3¢, near [[25edo|14\25]] (672.0¢), and the exact-20/17 tuning is 670.3¢, near [[34edo|19\34]] (670.6¢).


The harmonic 7 can be added in a similar way to how mavila is extended to [[armodue (temperament)|armodue]], by having [[7/4]] reached as -5 generators of 34/25 (or the "minor seventh" in antidiatonic terms).
The harmonic 7 can be added in a similar way to how mavila is extended to [[armodue (temperament)|armodue]], by having [[7/4]] reached as -5 generators of 34/25 (or the "minor seventh" in antidiatonic terms).


For technical data, see [[no-threes subgroup temperaments #Vengeance]].
For technical data, see [[no-threes subgroup temperaments #Vengeance]].
== History ==
Pentagoth was originally defined by ground and Userminusone as having an extension to the 2.5.13/11.17 subgroup that identifies 20/17 and [[13/11]] by tempering out [[221/220]]. The [[eigenmonzo|exact]]-13/11 tuning is 672.3¢, near [[25edo|14\25]] (672.0¢), and the exact-20/17 tuning is 670.3¢, near [[34edo|19\34]] (670.6¢).
Pentagoth now refers to a rank-3 temperament on 2.5.7.17 tempering out [[2023/2000]].


== Interval chain ==
== Interval chain ==