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Sqrt(25/24), the '''classical semichroma''' or '''ptolemaic semichroma'''<ref group="note">It is not ''diptolemaic'' as it is only flattened by one [[81/80|comma]] from the Pythagorean semichroma of [[sqrt(2187/2048)]].</ref>, is a the difference between a 5-limit major or minor third and a pure neutral third [[Sqrt(3/2)]].
2ed25/24 is a tuning system created by dividing the interval of [[25/24]] logarithmically into steps of about 35.336 cents each. Each step represents a frequency ratio of the square root of 25/24.


It is almost equal to [[34edo]].
{{Infobox interval|Ratio=\sqrt{25/24}|Name=classical semichroma, ptolemaic semichroma|Cents=35.336}}
==Theory==
One step of this tuning, the '''classical semichroma''', is the difference between a 5-limit major or minor third and a pure neutral third [[Sqrt(3/2)]].  


This is an interval that allows to pass from a just major third (5/4) to a just minor third (6/5) by [[equal contrary motion]], and vice versa. Let be two voices forming a 5/4 interval. If the lower voice goes up by a sqrt(25/24) and the upper voice goes down by the same interval, the next interval formed by the two voices will be a 6/5 interval.
This is an interval that allows to pass from a just major third (5/4) to a just minor third (6/5) by [[equal contrary motion]], and vice versa. Let be two voices forming a 5/4 interval. If the lower voice goes up by a sqrt(25/24) and the upper voice goes down by the same interval, the next interval formed by the two voices will be a 6/5 interval.
The interval, when stacked, yields a tuning system close to [[34edo]], which consistently represents it as one step.


== Listen ==
== Listen ==
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[[34edo|34-edo]] has such an excellent sqrt(25/24) that the next EDO to have a better one is [[441edo|441]].
[[34edo|34-edo]] has such an excellent sqrt(25/24) that the next EDO to have a better one is [[441edo|441]].
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Revision as of 17:07, 3 June 2025

Sqrt(25/24), the classical semichroma or ptolemaic semichroma[note 1], is a the difference between a 5-limit major or minor third and a pure neutral third Sqrt(3/2).

Interval information
Expression [math]\displaystyle{ \sqrt{25/24} }[/math]
Size in cents 35.336¢
Names classical semichroma,
ptolemaic semichroma
Special properties reduced

This is an interval that allows to pass from a just major third (5/4) to a just minor third (6/5) by equal contrary motion, and vice versa. Let be two voices forming a 5/4 interval. If the lower voice goes up by a sqrt(25/24) and the upper voice goes down by the same interval, the next interval formed by the two voices will be a 6/5 interval.

The interval, when stacked, yields a tuning system close to 34edo, which consistently represents it as one step.

Listen

Just major third and just minor third alternating by equal contrary motion
Just major seventh chord and just minor seventh chord alternating by equal contrary motion

Approximations

EDOs that have both a good 5-odd-limit and a sqrt(25/24) distinct from 25/24 include (among others) 24, 27, 31 and 34.

34-edo has such an excellent sqrt(25/24) that the next EDO to have a better one is 441.

  1. It is not diptolemaic as it is only flattened by one comma from the Pythagorean semichroma of sqrt(2187/2048).