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'''45/44''', ~38.906 cents, the '''undecimal 1/5-tone''', is the interval between [[11/9]] and [[5/4]], between [[11/10]] and [[9/8]], and between [[22/15]] and [[3/2]]. It is tempered out by the patent vals for [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], and [[26edo|26]] equal.  When one uses 45/44 as an interval in its own right, it has properties akin to a sort of chroma, and it differs from [[8192/8019]], the Alpharabian inframinor second, by the [[schisma]].
'''45/44''', ~38.906 cents, the '''undecimal 1/5-tone''', is the interval between [[11/9]] and [[5/4]], between [[11/10]] and [[9/8]], and between [[22/15]] and [[3/2]]. It is tempered out by the patent vals for [[12edo|12]], [[19edo|19]], and [[26edo|26]] equal.  It is very close to a single step of [[31edo]], and is represented consistently there as well. When one uses 45/44 as an interval in its own right, it has properties akin to a sort of chroma, and it differs from [[8192/8019]], the Alpharabian inframinor second, by the [[schisma]].


45/44 is also known as the "cake" comma, from when [[Ocean Stegosaurus Tardigrade]] was baking a cake and misread flour and sugar measurements on his scale, leading to the inclusion of 11/9 times the amount suggested in his recipe. To compensate, he writes "I increased all the other ingredients by a neutral third, except the eggs, which I increased by a major third because I couldn't be bothered to measure out eight ninths of an egg." We see here the equating of 11/9 with 5/4, leading to the tempering out of 45/44. The cake turned out fine but slightly burnt on the top.
45/44 is also known as the "cake" comma, from when [[Ocean Stegosaurus Tardigrade]] was baking a cake and misread flour and sugar measurements on his scale, leading to the inclusion of 11/9 times the amount suggested in his recipe. To compensate, he writes "I increased all the other ingredients by a neutral third, except the eggs, which I increased by a major third because I couldn't be bothered to measure out eight ninths of an egg." We see here the equating of 11/9 with 5/4, leading to the tempering out of 45/44. The cake turned out fine but slightly burnt on the top.

Revision as of 13:54, 12 November 2024

Interval information
Ratio 45/44
Factorization 2-2 × 32 × 5 × 11-1
Monzo [-2 2 1 0 -1
Size in cents 38.90577¢
Names undecimal 1/5-tone,
cake comma
Color name 1uy1, luyo 1sn,
Luyo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}^{5}_{11} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 10.9513
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 10.9837
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 26
Comma size medium
S-expression S9 × S10

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45/44, ~38.906 cents, the undecimal 1/5-tone, is the interval between 11/9 and 5/4, between 11/10 and 9/8, and between 22/15 and 3/2. It is tempered out by the patent vals for 12, 19, and 26 equal. It is very close to a single step of 31edo, and is represented consistently there as well. When one uses 45/44 as an interval in its own right, it has properties akin to a sort of chroma, and it differs from 8192/8019, the Alpharabian inframinor second, by the schisma.

45/44 is also known as the "cake" comma, from when Ocean Stegosaurus Tardigrade was baking a cake and misread flour and sugar measurements on his scale, leading to the inclusion of 11/9 times the amount suggested in his recipe. To compensate, he writes "I increased all the other ingredients by a neutral third, except the eggs, which I increased by a major third because I couldn't be bothered to measure out eight ninths of an egg." We see here the equating of 11/9 with 5/4, leading to the tempering out of 45/44. The cake turned out fine but slightly burnt on the top.

Ocean's cake

Sagittal notation

In the Sagittal system, the downward version of this comma (possibly tempered) is represented by the sagittal ⁠ ⁠ and is called the 11/5 small diesis, or 11/5S for short, because the simplest interval it notates is 11/5 (equiv. 11/10), as for example in C-D⁠ ⁠⁠ ⁠. The upward version is called 5/11S or 11/5S up and is represented by ⁠ ⁠.

See also