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! Monzo
! Monzo
|-
|-
| -2
| 4
| 6
| [[User:Userminusone/Goldis_comma|Goldis]]
| 549755813888/533935546875
| {{monzo| 39 -7 -12}}
|-
| -1
| 5
| [[Mabila_family#Mabila|Mabila]]
| 268435456/263671875
| {{monzo| 28 -3 -10}}
|-
| 0
| 0
| 4
| [[Gothic]]
| [[Würschmidt_family#W.C3.BCrschmidt|Wurschmidt]]
| [[134217728/129140163]]
| [[393216/390625]]
| {{monzo| 27 -17}}
| {{monzo| 17 1 -8}}
|-
|-
| 3
| 1
| 1
| 3
| [[Immunity]]
| [[Hanson_and_cata|Hanson/Kleismic]]
| [[1638400/1594323]]
| [[15625/15552]]
| {{monzo| 16 -13 2}}
| {{monzo| -6 -5 6}}
|-
|-
| 2
| 2
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| {{monzo| 5 -9 4}}
| {{monzo| 5 -9 4}}
|-
|-
| 1
| 3
| 3
| 1
| [[Hanson_and_cata|Hanson/Kleismic]]
| [[Immunity]]
| [[15625/15552]]
| [[1638400/1594323]]
| {{monzo| -6 -5 6}}
| {{monzo| 16 -13 2}}
|-
|-
| 0
| 4
| 4
| 0
| [[Würschmidt_family#W.C3.BCrschmidt|Wurschmidt]]
| [[Gothic]]
| [[393216/390625]]
| [[134217728/129140163]]
| {{monzo| 17 1 -8}}
| {{monzo| 27 -17}}
|-
| -1
| 5
| [[Mabila_family#Mabila|Mabila]]
| 268435456/263671875
| {{monzo| 28 -3 -10}}
|-
| -2
| 6
| [[User:Userminusone/Goldis_comma|Goldis]]
| 549755813888/533935546875
| {{monzo| 39 -7 -12}}
|-
|-
| …
| …
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|-
| ∞
| ∞
| ∞
| ∞*
| [[Diaschismic_family#Srutal_aka_diaschismic|Srutal]]
| [[Diaschismic_family#Srutal_aka_diaschismic|Srutal]]
| [[2048/2025]]
| [[2048/2025]]
| {{monzo| 11 -4 -2}}
| {{monzo| 11 -4 -2}}
|}
|}
: <nowiki>*</nowiki> in projective tuning space, ∞ = -∞.
 
We may invert the continuum by setting ''n'' such that 1/''n'' - 1/''m'' = 1. The just value of ''m'' is 1.4117…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.
We may invert the continuum by setting ''n'' such that 1/''n'' - 1/''m'' = 1. The just value of ''m'' is 1.4117…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.



Revision as of 18:12, 21 July 2024

The diaschismic-kleismic equivalence continuum is a continuum of 5-limit temperaments that describes the set of all 5-limit temperaments supported by 34edo.

A reasonable way of defining this continuum equates a number of diaschismas (2048/2025) with the Würschmidt comma (393216/390625), so that (2048/2025)n ~ 393216/390625. As a result, this may also be called the wurschmidt-diaschismic equivalence continuum, or the diaschismic-gothic equivalence continuum, which is more or less the same thing. The just value of n is 0.5853…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate. The gothic comma (134217728/129140163) is the characteristic 3-limit comma tempered out in 34edo, and it has a value of n = 4. Therefore, one can additionally define k = 4 - n, which has notable advantages - in particular, due to being determined in terms of the 3-limit comma and the comma with the next lowest power of 5, (twice the numerator of) the value of k represents the number of generator steps required to reach the 3rd harmonic.

All temperaments in the continuum also satisfy (15625/15552)m ~ 393216/390625, for a value of m defined such that 1/n - 1/m = 1; equivalently, we can offset m by 1, and equate a number of kleismas (15625/15552) with the diaschisma, hence the name. Varying m results in different temperaments listed in the second table below. It converges to hanson as m approaches infinity, and is motivated by the fact that many important temperaments of 34edo follow a chain of commas connected by kleismas.

Temperaments with integer n
n k Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
4 0 Gothic 134217728/129140163 [27 -17
3 1 Immunity 1638400/1594323 [16 -13 2
2 2 Tetracot 20000/19683 [5 -9 4
1 3 Hanson/Kleismic 15625/15552 [-6 -5 6
0 4 Wurschmidt 393216/390625 [17 1 -8
-1 5 Mabila 268435456/263671875 [28 -3 -10
-2 6 Goldis 549755813888/533935546875 [39 -7 -12
∞* Srutal 2048/2025 [11 -4 -2
* in projective tuning space, ∞ = -∞.

We may invert the continuum by setting n such that 1/n - 1/m = 1. The just value of m is 1.4117…, and temperaments near this tend to be the most accurate ones.

Temperaments with integer m
m k Temperament Comma
Ratio Monzo
-4 8/3 34 & 113 152587890625/148769467776 [-7 -19 16
-3 5/2 Fifive 9765625/9565938 [-1 -14 10
-2 2 Tetracot 20000/19683 [5 -9 4
-1 Srutal 2048/2025 [11 -4 -2
0 4 Wurschmidt 393216/390625 [17 1 -8
1 7/2 Vishnu 6115295232/6103515625 [23 6 -14
2 10/3 Gammic 95367431640625/95105071448064 [-29 -11 20
3 13/4 Quatracot 1490116119384765625/1479074071160291328 [-35 -16 26
3 Hanson/Kleismic 15625/15552 [-6 -5 6
Temperaments with fractional m and n
Temperament m n k
Majvam 1/2 = 0.5 1/3 = 0.3 11/3 = 3.6
Chlorine 3/2 = 1.5 3/5 = 0.6 17/5 = 3.4