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== Irrational HEJI Extensions ==
== Irrational HEJI Extensions ==
I've heard [[Golden ratio|phi]] is somewhat usefu in xen areas, as well as other popular irrational numbers, so what would it look like if I extended [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation|HEJI]] (my go-to Just Intonation notation) to support these numbers like factors?
I've heard [[Golden ratio|phi]] is somewhat useful in xen areas, as well as other popular irrational numbers, so what would it look like if I extended [[Helmholtz-Ellis notation|HEJI]] (my go-to Just Intonation notation) to support these numbers like factors?


=== Commas ===
===Commas===


==== Golden Ratio ====
====Golden Ratio====
The ratio [[Acoustic phi|phi]] adds up to 833.0903 cents, a sharp minor sixth. The Pythagorean minor sixth is [[128/81]], about 792.1800 cents. This leaves a comma of (81*phi)/128, about 40.9103 cents. I dub this interval the '''Golden quartertone'''.
The ratio [[Acoustic phi|phi]] adds up to 833.0903 cents, a sharp minor sixth. The Pythagorean minor sixth is [[128/81]], about 792.1800 cents. This leaves a comma of (81*phi)/128, about 40.9103 cents. I dub this interval the '''Golden quartertone'''.


==== Pi ====
====Pi====
The ratio pi/2 adds up to 781.7954 cents, an okay minor sixth. The Pythagorean minor sixth is [[128/81]], about 792.1800 cents. This leaves a comma of 256/(81*pi), about 10.3846 cents. I dub this interval the '''Circular comma'''.
The ratio pi/2 adds up to 781.7954 cents, an okay minor sixth. The Pythagorean minor sixth is [[128/81]], about 792.1800 cents. This leaves a comma of 256/(81*pi), about 10.3846 cents. I dub this interval the '''Circular comma'''.


==== Euler's constant ====
====Euler's constant====
The ratio e/2 adds up to 531.2340 cents, a pretty sharp fourth. The Pythagorean perfect fourth is, of course, [[4/3]], 498.0450 cents. This leaves a comma of (3*e)/8, about 33.1890 cents. I dub this interval the '''Eulerian comma'''.
The ratio e/2 adds up to 531.2340 cents, a pretty sharp fourth. The Pythagorean perfect fourth is, of course, [[4/3]], 498.0450 cents. This leaves a comma of (3*e)/8, about 33.1890 cents. I dub this interval the '''Eulerian comma'''.


=== Notation ===
===Notation===
For the golden quartertone, I plan to use the symbol Blackwood used in his microtonal notation, because it already resembles a phi symbol (ϕ). For pi, I designed a symbol similar to [https://en.xen.wiki/images/c/cf/Sagittal_sharp_kao.png the 55-comma symbol in Sagittal], but the "arrowhead" is replaced with a circular cap, making the symbol resemble a ''J'' with an extra shaft.
For the golden quartertone, I plan to use the symbol Blackwood used in his microtonal notation, because it already resembles a phi symbol (ϕ). For pi, I designed a symbol similar to [https://en.xen.wiki/images/c/cf/Sagittal_sharp_kao.png the 55-comma symbol in Sagittal], but the "arrowhead" is replaced with a circular cap, making the symbol resemble a ''J'' with an extra shaft.


I'm yet to design a symbol for e.
I'm yet to design a symbol for e.