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The most prominent deficiency of magic temperaments is that they lack [[Rothenberg propriety|proper]] or nearly-proper MOS scales in the 5 to 10 note "diatonic" region.
The most prominent deficiency of magic temperaments is that they lack [[Rothenberg propriety|proper]] or nearly-proper MOS scales in the 5 to 10 note "diatonic" region.


== Five limit magic ==
== Five-limit magic ==
The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is [[3125/3072]], the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is {{monzo| -10 -1 5 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 5 1 -10 }} for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)<sup>5</sup> = 3 × 3125/3072. 13\41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19\60, the [[optimal patent val]] generator, also makes a lot of sense and using [[19 EDO]] or [[22 EDO]] is always possible.
The 5-limit parent comma for the magic family is [[3125/3072]], the small diesis or magic comma. Its monzo is {{monzo| -10 -1 5 }}, and flipping that yields {{multival| 5 1 -10 }} for the [[wedgie]]. This tells us the generator is a major third, and that to get to the interval class of fifths will require five of these. In fact, (5/4)<sup>5</sup> = 3 × 3125/3072. 13\41 is a highly recommendable generator, though 19\60, the [[optimal patent val]] generator, also makes a lot of sense and using [[19 EDO]] or [[22 EDO]] is always possible.


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[[Badness]]: 0.039163
[[Badness]]: 0.039163


=== Seven-limit extensions ===
=== Extensions ===
The second comma of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives magic, and [[525/512]], Avicenna's enharmonic diesis, gives his annoying brother muggles. Both use the major third as a generator.
The second comma of the [[Normal lists #Normal interval list|normal comma list]] defines which 7-limit family member we are looking at. [[875/864]], the keemic comma, gives magic, and [[525/512]], Avicenna's enharmonic diesis, gives his annoying brother muggles. Both use the major third as a generator.


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Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 225/224, 245/243, 100/99
Comma list: 100/99, 225/224, 245/243


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 2 -1 6 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 -8 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 2 -1 6 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 -8 }}]
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Badness: 0.033317
Badness: 0.033317


=== Divination ===
=== Witchcraft ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 245/243
Comma list: 225/224, 245/243, 441/440


Mapping: [{{val| 2 0 4 -2 5 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 3 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 2 -1 -7 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 33 }}]


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.233
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.232


Vals: {{Val list| 22, 38d, 60e, 142cde }}
Vals: {{Val list| 41, 60e, 101cd, 243cde }}


Badness: 0.035864
Badness: 0.030706


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195, 245/243
Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 245/243, 275/273


Mapping: [{{val| 2 0 4 -2 5 -4 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 3 18 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 2 -1 -7 -2 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 33 18 }}]


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 379.920
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.189


Vals: {{Val list| 22f, 60e }}
Vals: {{Val list| 41, 60e, 101cd }}


Badness: 0.034551
Badness: 0.023547


=== Witchcraft ===
=== Divination ===
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11


Comma list: 225/224, 245/243, 441/440
Comma list: 121/120, 225/224, 245/243


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 2 -1 -7 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 33 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 2 0 4 -2 5 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 3 }}]


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.232
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.233


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 60e, 101cd, 243cde }}
Vals: {{Val list| 22, 38d, 60e, 142cde }}


Badness: 0.030706
Badness: 0.035864


==== 13-limit ====
==== 13-limit ====
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.11.13


Comma list: 105/104, 196/195, 245/243, 275/273
Comma list: 105/104, 121/120, 196/195, 245/243


Mapping: [{{val| 1 0 2 -1 -7 -2 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 33 18 }}]
Mapping: [{{val| 2 0 4 -2 5 -4 }}, {{val| 0 5 1 12 3 18 }}]


POTE generator: ~5/4 = 380.189
POTE generator: ~5/4 = 379.920


Vals: {{Val list| 41, 60e, 101cd }}
Vals: {{Val list| 22f, 60e }}


Badness: 0.023547
Badness: 0.034551


=== Hocus ===
=== Hocus ===
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[[Category:Temperament family]]
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