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: I don't see a point for either 2.3.5.11.13 or 2.3.5.13. They are but restrictions of cassandra and they don't get much more accurate than cassandra by removing the 7. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:44, 23 January 2026 (UTC)

== Extensions ==

; Grackle

: 77 & 89 and 89 & 101e are possible alternative 13-limit extensions. I think grackle may be presented as no-13. Alternatively, since I don't see the point of grack (12 & 65), I think we can delete it and re-use the name for one of the extensions above.

; Bischismic & kleischismic

: Both should prolly be reworked as no-13 17-limit temps.

; Quintaschis

: This temp has three alternating 11-limit extensions: 277d & 289, 289 & 301, and 301 & 313, with 289 & 301 being the central segment. As such, the 11-limit extension (277d & 289) should not be canon.

: For the alternative 11-limit extension, quintahelenic (301 & 313), the 13-limit extension should not be canon, as it's the other extension that is supported by the higher equal temps – but of course that one is very complex. So, I think it's best to present this extension as no-13.

—[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:26, 8 July 2026 (UTC) (last updated [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 02:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC))

: Grackle's extensions should be nestoria-based for sure, so should canonically go to 19-limit, so see if you can deduce a sure and internally-consistent mapping of 13 based on that of 17 and 19 (investigate canonicity). --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 04:54, 19 July 2026 (UTC)

:: The mapping for 17 and 19 are very simple and obvious in this case, so they only help to suggest grackle as no-13 (in combination with the fact that the central segment for the 13-limit extension is complex). —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 02:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC)

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 : I don't see a point for either 2.3.5.11.13 or 2.3.5.13. They are but restrictions of cassandra and they don't get much more accurate than cassandra by removing the 7. —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:44, 23 January 2026 (UTC)
+== Extensions ==
+; Grackle
+: 77 & 89 and 89 & 101e are possible alternative 13-limit extensions. I think grackle may be presented as no-13. Alternatively, since I don't see the point of grack (12 & 65), I think we can delete it and re-use the name for one of the extensions above.
+; Bischismic & kleischismic
+: Both should prolly be reworked as no-13 17-limit temps.
+; Quintaschis
+: This temp has three alternating 11-limit extensions: 277d & 289, 289 & 301, and 301 & 313, with 289 & 301 being the central segment. As such, the 11-limit extension (277d & 289) should not be canon.
+: For the alternative 11-limit extension, quintahelenic (301 & 313), the 13-limit extension should not be canon, as it's the other extension that is supported by the higher equal temps – but of course that one is very complex. So, I think it's best to present this extension as no-13.
+—[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 10:26, 8 July 2026 (UTC) (last updated [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 02:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC))
+: Grackle's extensions should be nestoria-based for sure, so should canonically go to 19-limit, so see if you can deduce a sure and internally-consistent mapping of 13 based on that of 17 and 19 (investigate canonicity). --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 04:54, 19 July 2026 (UTC)
+:: The mapping for 17 and 19 are very simple and obvious in this case, so they only help to suggest grackle as no-13 (in combination with the fact that the central segment for the 13-limit extension is complex). —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 02:55, 25 August 2026 (UTC)