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= Title1 =
== Approximations of odd harmonics ==
== Octave stretch or compression ==
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Having a flat tendency, 16et is best tuned with [[stretched octave]]s, which improve the accuracy of wide-voiced JI chords and [[rooted]] harmonics especially on inharmonic timbres such as bells and [[gamelan]], with [[37ed5]] and [[57ed12]] being good options.
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What follows is a comparison of stretched- and compressed-octave 16edo tunings.
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; 16edo
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* Step size: 75.000{{c}}, octave size: 1200.0{{c}}  
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Pure-octaves 16edo approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 36.7{{c}}.
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{{Harmonics in equal|16|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 16edo}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|16|2|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 16edo (continued)}}
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; [[WE|16et, 2.5.7.13 WE tuning]]
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* Step size: 75.105{{c}}, octave size: 1201.7{{c}}
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Stretching the octave of 16edo by around 2{{c}} results in improved primes 3, 5, 11 and 13, but worse primes 2 and 7. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 31.8{{c}}. Its 2.5.7.13 WE tuning and 2.5.7.13 [[TE]] tuning both do this.
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{{Harmonics in cet|75.105|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 16et, 2.5.7.13 WE tuning}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|75.105|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 16et, 2.5.7.13 WE tuning (continued)}}
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; [[zpi|15zpi]] / [[equal tuning|59ed13]]
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* Step size: 75.262{{c}}, octave size: 1204.2{{c}}
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Stretching the octave of 16edo by around 4{{c}} results in very improved primes 3, 5, 11 and 13, but much worse primes 2 and 7. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 34.5{{c}}. The tunings 15zpi and 59ed13 do this.
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{{Harmonics in cet|75.262|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 15zpi}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|75.262|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 15zpi (continued)}}
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; [[WE|16et, 13-limit WE tuning]] / [[37ed5]]
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* Step size (WE 16et): 75.315{{c}}, octave size (WE 16et): 1205.0{{c}}
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Stretching the octave of 16edo by around 5{{c}} results in very improved primes 3, 5, 11 and 13, but much worse primes 2 and 7. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within 37.2{{c}}. Its 13-limit WE tuning and 13-limit [[TE]] tuning both do this, so does the tuning 37ed5.
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{{Harmonics in cet|75.315|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 16et, 13-limit WE tuning}}
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{{Harmonics in cet|75.315|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 16et, 13-limit WE tuning (continued)}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|37|5|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 37ed5}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|37|5|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 37ed5 (continued)}}
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; [[57ed12]] / [[equal tuning|55ed11]]
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* Step size (57ed12): 75.473{{c}}, octave size (57ed12): 1207.6{{c}}
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Stretching the octave of 16edo by around 7.5{{c}} results in especially improved primes 3, 5 and 11, but far worse primes 2 and 7. This approximates all harmonics up to 16 within NNN{{c}}. The tunings 57ed12 and 55ed11 do this.
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{{Harmonics in equal|57|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 57ed12}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|57|12|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 57ed12 (continued)}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|55|11|1|intervals=integer|columns=11|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 55ed11}}
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{{Harmonics in equal|55|11|1|intervals=integer|columns=12|start=12|collapsed=true|title=Approximation of harmonics in 55ed11 (continued)}}
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= Title2 =
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=== Possible tunings to be used on each page ===
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You can remove some of these or add more that aren't listed here; this section is pretty much just brainstorming.
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(Used https://x31eq.com/temper-pyscript/net.html, used WE instead of TE cause it kept defaulting to WE and I kept not remembering to switch it)
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; High-priority
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13edo
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* Main: "13edo and optimal octave stretching"
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* 2.5.11.13 WE (92.483c)
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* 2.5.7.13 WE (92.804c)
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* 2.3 WE (91.405c) (good for opposite 7 mapping)
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* 38zpi (92.531c)
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14edo
* 22edt
* 36ed6
* 11-limit WE (85.842c)
* 13-limit WE (85.759c)
* 42zpi (86.329c)
 
16edo
* 25edt
* 41ed6
* 57ed12
* 2.5.7.13 WE (75.105c)
* 13-limit WE (75.315c)
* 15zpi (75.262c)
 
99edo
* 157edt
* 256ed6
* 7-limit WE (12.117c)
* 13-limit WE (12.123c)
* 567zpi (12.138c)
* 568zpi (12.115c)
 
23edo (narrow down edonoi & ZPIs)
* Main: "23edo and octave stretching"
* 36edt
* 59ed6
* 60ed6
* 68ed8
* 11ed7/5
* 1ed33/32
* 2.3.5.13 WE (52.447c)
* 2.7.11 WE (51.962c)
* 13-limit WE (52.237c)
* 83zpi (53.105c)
* 84zpi (52.615c)
* 85zpi (52.114c)
* 86zpi (51.653c)
* 87zpi (51.201c)
 
60edo (narrow down edonoi & ZPIs)
* 95edt
* 139ed5
* 155ed6
* 208ed11
* 255ed19
* 272ed23 (great for catnip temperament)
* 13-limit WE (20.013c)
* 299zpi (20.128c)
* 300zpi (20.093c)
* 301zpi (20.027c)
* 302zpi (19.962c)
* 303zpi (19.913c)
* 304zpi (19.869c)
 
; Medium priority
 
32edo (narrow down ZPIs)
* 90ed7
* 51edt
* 75ed5
* 1ed46/45
* 11-limit WE (37.453c)
* 13-limit WE (37.481c)
* 131zpi (37.862c)
* 132zpi (37.662c)
* 133zpi (37.418c)
* 134zpi (37.176c)
 
33edo (narrow down edonoi)
* 76ed5
* 92ed7
* 52edt
* 1ed47/46
* 114ed11
* 122ed13
* 93ed7
* 23edPhi
* 77ed5
* 123ed13
* 115ed11
* 11-limit WE (36.349c)
* 13-limit WE (36.357c)
* 137zpi (36.628c)
* 138zpi (36.394c)
* 139zpi (36.179c)
 
39edo
* 62edt
* 101ed6
* 18ed11/8
* 2.3.5.11 WE (30.703c)
* 2.3.7.11.13 WE (30.787c)
* 13-limit WE (30.757c)
* 171zpi (30.973c)
* 172zpi (30.836c)
* 173zpi (30.672c)
 
42edo
* 42ed257/128 (replace w something similar but simpler)
* AS123/121 (1ed123/121)
* 11ed6/5
* 34ed7/4
* 7-limit WE (28.484c)
* 13-limit WE (28.534c)
* 189zpi (28.689c)
* 190zpi (28.572c)
* 191zpi (28.444c)
 
45edo
* 126ed7
* 13ed11/9
* 7-limit WE (26.745c)
* 13-limit WE (26.695c)
* 207zpi (26.762)
* 208zpi (26.646)
* 209zpi (26.550)
 
54edo
* 86edt
* 126ed5
* 152ed7
* 38ed5/3
* 40ed5/3
* 2.3.7.11.13 WE (22.180c)
* 13-limit WE (22.198c)
* 262zpi (22.313c)
* 263zpi (22.243c)
* 264zpi (22.175c)
 
59edo (narrow down ZPIs)
* 93edt
* 166ed7
* 203ed11
* 7-limit WE (20.301c)
* 11-limit WE (20.310c)
* 13-limit WE (20.320c)
* 293zpi (20.454c)
* 294zpi (20.399c)
* 295zpi (20.342c)
* 296zpi (20.282c)
* 297zpi (20.229c)
 
64edo (narrow down ZPIs)
* 149ed5
* 180ed7
* 222ed11
* 47ed5/3
* 11-limit WE (18.755c)
* 13-limit WE (18.752c)
* 325zpi (18.868c)
* 326zpi (18.816c)
* 327zpi (18.767c)
* 328zpi (18.721c)
* 329zpi (18.672c)
* 330zpi (18.630c)
 
103edo (narrow down edonoi, choose ZPIS)
* 163edt
* 239ed5
* 289ed7
* 356ed11
* 381ed13
* 421ed17
* 466ed23
* 13-limit WE (11.658c)
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
118edo (choose ZPIS)
* 187edt
* 69edf
* 13-limit WE (10.171c)
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
152edo (choose ZPIS)
* 241edt
* 13-limit WE (7.894c)
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
; Low priority
 
111edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
125edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
145edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
159edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
166edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
182edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
198edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
212edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
243edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
247edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
; Optional
 
25edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
26edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
29edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
30edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
34edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
35edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
36edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
37edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
5edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
6edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
9edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
10edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
11edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
15edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
18edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
48edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
20edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
24edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)
 
28edo
* Nearby edt, ed6, ed12 and/or edf
* Nearby ed5, ed10, ed7 and/or ed11 (optional)
* 1-2 WE tunings
* Best nearby ZPI(s)