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From May 2025 onwards, the Xenharmonic Wiki is introducing new '''notability guidelines'''.  
'''This is not actually Xen Wiki policy, it is only a hypothetical proposal by one user.'''
 
 
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The Xenharmonic Wiki is introducing new '''notability guidelines'''.  


These are less strict than Wikipedia's guidelines. The main goal of these guidelines is to stem the tide of dozens of very short new pages about topics of limited musical usefulness.
These are less strict than Wikipedia's guidelines. The main goal of these guidelines is to stem the tide of dozens of very short new pages about topics of limited musical usefulness.
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Main space pages are pages without any prefix. For example "Major scale".
Main space pages are pages without any prefix. For example "Major scale".


== Banned content ==
== Pages with GENTLE notability requirements ==
In general the wiki is suffering from a lack of citations, so if you cite your sources, that is especially appreciated and goes a long way.


=== Objectively false claims ===
Pages that typically belong in main space include but are not limited to:
Objectively false claims (e.g. "the octave is 1500 cents") '''do not belong anywhere on the wiki''' and should be deleted.
=== • Pages about composers, theorists or musicians ===
=== • Pages about instruments ===
=== • Pages about long-standing musical traditions ===
=== • Pages about widely used tunings or intervals ===


This includes false claims about existing musical traditions (e.g. "the Indonesian slendro scale is 5edo.")
== Pages with MODERATE notability requirements ==


What IS allowed though, are comparisons, as long as they are accurate. (So you CAN say "the Indonesian slendro scale is ''similar to'' 5edo.")
=== Using words or names you invented yourself ===
If you ever use a word or name that you invented yourself, '''mark it with [[:Template:Idiosyncratic]]'''.


=== Offensive content ===
If you use several such terms in one section of a page, then instead of using [[:Template:Idiosyncratic]] several times, instead place [[:Template:Idiosyncratic terms]] at the start of the section.
The following content '''does not belong anywhere on the wiki''' and should be deleted:
* Content which promotes or risks promoting hatred or discrimination against any group of people
* Content which is mean-spirited or in bad faith
* Content which is in any way obscene, lewd or scatological
* Anything which borders on, or hints at, any of the above


=== What to do if you see banned content ===
=== NEW pages about regular temperaments ===
If you see banned content in a page, delete that content off of the page. If the entire page falls under the umbrella of banned content, put [[:Template:Delete]] at the top of the page.
These are great! We do need more pages dedicated to individual [[temperament]]s. But make sure to include all or almost all of the following:
* Interval chain (for [[rank-2]] temperaments) / [[Lattice]] (for [[rank-3]] temperaments and higher)
* Tables/spectra of tunings
* At least one paragraph explaining its structure
* At least one paragraph explaining its properties
* An infobox - use [[:Template:Infobox Regtemp]]


== Always USER page content ==
Thank you :)


=== Essays/opinion pieces ===
== Pages with STRICT notability requirements ==
These should always be '''user pages'''.


== Usually USER page content ==
=== Pages with significantly more automated template content than human-written content ===
These should always be '''user pages''' - the exception is if they are about a [[MOS]] with 30 or fewer total steps, then they can go in main space.


=== Pages with significantly more automated template content than human-written content ===
If the page is about a very important topic (see below sections for elaboration) that is a priority for the wiki to cover, then include [[:Template:Stub]] at the BOTTOM of the page. This will tell future authors to write more content for your page, and once it is fleshed out, it can be moved to main space.  
These should always be '''user pages''' except if they are about a [[MOS]] with less than 40 total steps, then they can go in main space.  


If the page is about an very important topic that is a priority for the wiki to cover, then include [[:Template:Stub]] at the BOTTOM of the page. This will tell future authors to write more content for your page, and once it is fleshed out, it can be moved to main space.
MOS pages DO still require the stub template when their manual content is sparse.


=== NEW pages about intervals, commas, or equal tunings ===
=== NEW pages about intervals, commas, or equal tunings ===
These should usually be '''user pages'''.
==== In general ====
The basic principle here is to have ''good rationale''.
 
'''Think about why you are creating this page.'''
 
'''Why does the concept you are writing a page for need to have its own article?'''
 
Did you come across this while playing with a scale or exploring compositional possibilities, or otherwise while investigating structures theoretically? ...If so, then there is some reason or context that the idea exists in; we therefore urge you to describe that reason when you are writing the page.
 
Additionally, question whether it is really necessary to create a page or if what you have the interest in talking about would belong as a mention on a different, already-existing page instead.
 
The below criteria are soft guidelines in general, but delineate what the good reasons are for a page to be made.
 
==== Intervals ====
If you are unsure about meeting the below criteria, make it a '''user page'''.
 
If the page is about '''an interval''' that meets AT LEAST ONE of the following criteria, then it can be a main space page (''as long as it has at least a full paragraph of human-written content, rather than consisting mostly of just templates''):
* Both its numerator and denominator are 2 digits or less
* It has a [[Wilson height]] of around 40 or less
* It is highly structurally important to some musical framework used by at least 2 people
 
==== Commas ====
If you are unsure about meeting the below criteria, make it a '''user page'''.
 
If the page is about '''a [[comma]]''', then make it a main space page ONLY if AT LEAST one of the following is true:
* tempering it out has low [[badness]] and sensible structural interpretation in a ''non-absurd'' [[subgroup]]
* it is incidental to multiple temperaments elsewhere documented on the wiki
* it has [[essentially tempered chord]]s in a reasonable odd-limit,
 
Additionally, if it is to be a main space page, you MUST do the following:
* explain its particular xenharmonic value with at least a full paragraph of human-written text
 
If the above conditions aren't met, then make it a user page.
 
==== Equal tunings ====
If you are unsure about meeting the below criteria, make it a '''user page'''.
 
If the page is about '''an [[equal-step tuning|equal tuning]] (ET)''', proceed with caution.
 
If the page is to be in main space, it must meet ALL the following criteria:
* At least one or more full paragraphs of ''thoughtful'', ''human-written'' content. The following types of content DO NOT count towards this:
** Tables, boxes or sentences auto-generated by templates
** AI-generated text
** Simple, superficial observations, e.g.:
*** "this ET performs well in the 2.9.15.11.17.23 subgroup"
*** "this ET tempers out x comma"
*** "this ET supports temperament"
Those are all still useful things to include, but only if you actually describe how they relate to this temperament and what that means for musicians or composers.


If the page is about a comma that is tempered out by a temperament with very low [[badness]] in a ''non-absurd'' [[subgroup]], then it can be a main space page, as long as it has at least a full paragraph of human-written content, rather than consisting mostly of just templates.
If you are making a main space page for an ET with an unusual [[equave]] or [[period]] (e.g. ED5/3, ED7, ED8/7, etc.), then there must be a VERY good reason why it's important; otherwise it should be a user page.


If the page is about an interval with a numerator and denominator each 2 digits or less, then it can be a main space page, as long as it has at least a full paragraph of human-written content, rather than consisting mostly of just templates.
If you are making a main space page for an EDO, EDT, or other ET with hundreds or thousands of steps, then there must be an EXTREMELY good reason why it's important, otherwise it should be a user page.


If the page is about an equal tuning (ET), proceed with caution. You need to be able to write at least a paragraph of manual, human-written content, which would not be easy to figure out by someone just looking at a graph. If you can do that, it can be a main space page, otherwise, it should be a user page.
Any time you make a new ED(n) page in main space, you MUST place a link to it on the page for "ED(n)". For example, if you make a page for 59ed5/4, you must place a link to it on the page "Ed5/4". Or if you make a page for 7465edo, you must place a link to it on the page "EDO".


=== New music theory concepts you came up with yourself ===
=== New music theory concepts you came up with yourself ===
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They should '''always include [[:Template:Worldbuilding]] at the top of the page'''.
They should '''always include [[:Template:Worldbuilding]] at the top of the page'''.


== MAIN space content requiring extra caution ==
== Essays/opinion pieces ==
 
These should always be '''user pages'''.
=== Using words or names you invented yourself ===
If you ever use a word or name that you invented yourself, '''mark it with [[:Template:Idiosyncratic]]'''.
 
If you use several such terms in one section of a page, then instead of using [[:Template:Idiosyncratic]] several times, instead place [[:Template:Idiosyncratic terms]] at the start of the section.
 
=== New pages about regular temperaments ===
These are great! We do need more pages dedicated to individual temperaments. But make sure to include all or almost all of the following:
* Interval chain
* Tuning spectrum
* At least one paragraph explaining its structure
* At least one paragraph explaining its properties
 
Thank you :)
 
== General MAIN space content ==
In general the wiki is suffering from a lack of citations, so if you cite your sources, that is especially appreciated and goes a long way.
 
Pages that typically belong in main space include but are not limited to:
=== • Pages about composers, theorists or musicians ===
=== • Pages about instruments ===
=== • Pages about long-standing musical traditions ===
=== • Pages about widely used tunings or intervals ===


== Entries on list and gallery pages ==
== Entries on list and gallery pages ==
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=== Temperament family, clan or collection pages ===
=== Temperament family, clan or collection pages ===
Only include temperaments which have low [[badness]] in a non-absurd, non-arbitrary [[subgroup]].
Only include temperaments which have low [[badness]] in a non-absurd, non-arbitrary subgroup, or are restrictions of such to lower prime limits.
 
It is highly recommended to include least one sentence of rationale, for why this temperament was documented or why this particular extension may be chosen.
 
==== Extensions ====
If you are documenting an [[extension]] to a base temperament, especially in the [[13-limit]] and higher where multiple primes may dictate conflicting tuning tendencies, do so only if the extension:
* is the best available extension to the given [[subgroup]]/[[prime limit|limit]] in a specific tuning subrange of the base temperament, OR
* is particularly simple compared to other extensions to the same subgroup, OR
* splits the base temperament's [[generator]]s in a nontrivial way and is better than other extensions to do the same by either of the above criteria
 
If the extension is to a subgroup that does not fill out a prime limit, it should be explained why it is natural or reasonable to consider this.


=== Tables of commas ===
=== Tables of commas ===
Only include commas which are [[tempered out]] by at least one low-badness [[temperament]] in a non-absurd, non-arbitrary subgroup, AND which are important for defining that temperament (not incidental).
Only include commas which are [[tempered out]] by at least one low-badness [[temperament]] in a non-absurd, non-arbitrary subgroup, AND which are important for defining that temperament (not incidental).  
 
([[List of superparticular intervals]] is an exception in that that page explicitly intends to include ''all'' superparticulars within a given limit.)


=== Entries that don't meet the above criteria ===
=== Entries that don't meet the above criteria ===
List them on your own user page instead.
List them on your own user page instead.
== Banned content ==
=== Objectively false claims ===
Objectively false claims (e.g. "the octave is 1500 cents") '''do not belong anywhere on the wiki''' and should be deleted.
This includes false claims about existing musical traditions (e.g. "the Indonesian slendro scale is 5edo.")
What IS allowed though, are comparisons, as long as they are accurate. (So you CAN say "the Indonesian slendro scale is ''similar to'' 5edo.")
=== Offensive content ===
The following content '''does not belong anywhere on the wiki''' and should be deleted:
* Content which promotes or risks promoting hatred or discrimination against any group of people
* Content which is mean-spirited or in bad faith
* Content which is in any way obscene, lewd or scatological
* Anything which borders on, or hints at, any of the above
=== What to do if you see banned content ===
If you see banned content in a page, delete that content off of the page. If the entire page falls under the umbrella of banned content, put [[:Template:Delete]] at the top of the page.
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