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Why not exhausting the factors of 5 in the target interval? (10/9)^4 to 32/21 or (6/5)^4/2 to 28/27 are way more useful identities
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{{Wikipedia|Ragisma}}
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'''4375/4374''', the '''ragisma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[7-limit]] [[comma]] which is the difference between a stack of two [[27/25|large limmas]] and [[7/6]], the difference between a stack of four [[10/9|classical whole tones (10/9)]] and [[32/21]], and the difference between a stack of four [[6/5|classical minor thirds (6/5)]] [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] and [[28/27]]. It is the smallest 7-limit [[superparticular]] ratio. It is also equal to the difference between a [[kleisma]] (S25<sup>2</sup> × S26) and a [[marvel comma]] (S15 = S25 × S26 × S27), hence its expression as S25 / S27 which directly implies it can be expressed as (28/24 = [[7/6]])/([[27/25]])<sup>2</sup>.
'''4375/4374''', the '''ragisma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[7-limit]] [[comma]] which is the difference between a stack of two [[27/25|large limmas]] and [[7/6]], the difference between a stack of four [[10/9|classical whole tones (10/9)]] and [[32/21]], and the difference between a stack of four [[6/5|classical minor thirds (6/5)]] [[octave reduction|octave-reduced]] and [[28/27]]. It is the smallest 7-limit [[superparticular]] ratio. It is also equal to the difference between a [[15625/15552|kleisma]] (S25<sup>2</sup> × S26) and a [[marvel comma]] (S15 = S25 × S26 × S27), hence its expression as S25 / S27 which directly implies it can be expressed as (28/24 = [[7/6]])/([[27/25]])<sup>2</sup>.


== Temperaments ==
== Temperaments ==
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== Etymology ==
== Etymology ==
This comma was allegedly named by [[Erv Wilson]] no later than 2001<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_22165.html#22220 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Re: What is a monzisma?'']</ref>. Interestingly, by 2004 people had already lost track of its origin and meaning<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10195.html#10202 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Comma names'']</ref>. Maybe it was named after [[Indian]] ragas? (Pure speculation.)
This comma was allegedly named by [[Erv Wilson]] no later than 2001<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning/topicId_22165.html#22220 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Re: What is a monzisma?'']</ref>. Interestingly, by 2004 people had already lost track of its origin and meaning<ref>[https://yahootuninggroupsultimatebackup.github.io/tuning-math/topicId_10195.html#10202 Yahoo! Tuning Group | ''Comma names'']</ref>. It is speculated that it could have been named after [[Indian]] ragas.  


== See also ==
== See also ==

Latest revision as of 23:31, 12 July 2025

Interval information
Ratio 4375/4374
Factorization 2-1 × 3-7 × 54 × 7
Monzo [-1 -7 4 1
Size in cents 0.3957559¢
Name ragisma
Color name zy41, zoquadyo 1sn,
Zoquadyo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A1}^{5,5,5,5,7} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 24.1898
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 24.1901
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 50
Comma size unnoticeable
S-expression S25 / S27
Open this interval in xen-calc
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4375/4374, the ragisma, is an unnoticeable 7-limit comma which is the difference between a stack of two large limmas and 7/6, the difference between a stack of four classical whole tones (10/9) and 32/21, and the difference between a stack of four classical minor thirds (6/5) octave-reduced and 28/27. It is the smallest 7-limit superparticular ratio. It is also equal to the difference between a kleisma (S252 × S26) and a marvel comma (S15 = S25 × S26 × S27), hence its expression as S25 / S27 which directly implies it can be expressed as (28/24 = 7/6)/(27/25)2.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma leads to the ragismic temperament, enabling ragismic chords in the 27-odd-limit. See Ragismic family for the rank-3 family where it is tempered out. See Ragismic microtemperaments for a collection of rank-2 temperaments where it is tempered out.

Etymology

This comma was allegedly named by Erv Wilson no later than 2001[1]. Interestingly, by 2004 people had already lost track of its origin and meaning[2]. It is speculated that it could have been named after Indian ragas.

See also

Notes