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<h2>IMPORTED REVISION FROM WIKISPACES</h2>
A '''large comma''' is a [[comma]] whose size is approximately 100 cents and larger. As intervals, these commas are steps or even skips.
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==3-limit commas==
For commas under 100 cents, see [[Medium comma]] for commas in between 30 and 100 cents or [[Small comma]] for commas under 30 cents. For commas under 3.5 cents, see [[Unnoticeable comma]].
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
|| apotome || [[2187_2048|2187 / 2048]] || | -11 7 &gt; || 113.685 ||
|| 19-comma ||  || | -30 19 &gt; || 137.145 ||
|| [[31 comma temperaments|31-comma]] || || | -49 31 &gt; || 160.605 ||
|| 43-comma ||  || | -68 43 &gt; || 184.065 ||
|| 22-comma ||  || | 35 -22 &gt; || 156.990 ||
|| 46-comma ||  || | 73 -46 &gt; || 110.070 ||
|| 63-comma ||  || | 100 -63 &gt; || 176.835 ||
|| 70-comma ||  || | 111 -70 &gt; || 63.150 ||
|| 77-comma ||  || | 122 -77 &gt; || 176.815 ||


==5-limit commas==
Except for the 3-limit commas, the [[Color notation|color name]] refers to both the comma and the temperament created when it is [[tempered out]].
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
|| 5-cycle major second, hexadecathird comma ||  || | -37 0 16 &gt; || 181.019 ||
|| acute limma ||  || | -44 0 19 &gt; || 139.961 ||
|| meantone Integer cents comma ||  || | -1393 0 600 &gt; || 188.228 ||
|| 31-15-comma ||  || | 121 -31 -31 &gt; || 136.330 ||
|| 87-15-comma ||  || | 340 -87 -87 &gt; || 120.622 ||
|| enipucrop || 1125 / 1024 || | -10 2 3 &gt; || 162.851 ||
|| supersharp || 800 / 729 || | 5 -6 2 &gt; || 160.897 ||
|| gorgo || 2187 / 2000 || | -4 7 -3 &gt; || 154.744 ||
|| large limma || [[27_25|27 / 25]] || | 0 3 -1&gt; || 133.238 ||
|| lemba || 140625 / 131072 || | -17 2 6 &gt; || 121.792 ||
|| sixix || 3125 / 2916 || | -2 -6 5 &gt; || 119.839 ||
|| diesma || 10460353203 / 9765625000 || | -3 21 -13 &gt; || 118.977 ||
|| comic || 5120000 / 4782969 || | 13 -14 4 &gt; || 117.885 ||
|| just diatonic semitone || [[16_15|16 / 15]] || | 4 -1 -1&gt; || 111.731 ||
|| beatles || 524288 / 492075 || | 19 -9 -2 &gt; || 109.778 ||
|| wronecki || 531441 / 500000 || | -5 12 -6 &gt; || 105.578 ||
|| wesley || 78125 / 73728 || | -13 -2 7 &gt; || 100.286 ||
|| 11-3/5-comma || 48828125 / 45339632 || | -8 -11 11 &gt; || 127.946 ||
|| 27-3/5-comma ||  || | 20 27 -27 &gt; || 122.315 ||
|| 31-3/5-comma ||  || | 23 31 -31 &gt; || 184.880 ||
|| Keemun Integer cents comma ||  || | 221 300 -300 &gt; || 107.614 ||


==7-limit commas==
The commas might be numerous, but there is no need to memorise all the names. For pretty much all use cases, it is perfectly acceptable – preferred, even – to just refer to a comma by the monzo or ratio, whichever is simpler.  
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
|| hexatone comma, 6-7-comma || 131072 / 117649 || | 17 0 0 -6 &gt; || 187.045 ||
|| hendecatone comma, 11-7-comma || 2147483648 / 1977326743 || | 31 0 0 -11 &gt; || 142.915 ||
|| 41-7-comma ||  || | -115 0 0 41 &gt; || 121.862 ||
|| 46-7-comma ||  || | -129 0 0 46 &gt; || 165.992 ||
|| 25-7/5-comma ||  || | -12 0 -25 25 &gt; || 162.805 ||
|| 27-7/5-comma ||  || | -13 0 -27 27 &gt; || 127.829 ||
|| 41-7/5-comma ||  || | 21 0 41 -41 &gt; || 117.000 ||
|| 43-7/5-comma ||  || | 22 0 43 -43 &gt; || 151.976 ||
|| 45-7/5-comma ||  || | 23 0 45 -45 &gt; || 186.951 ||
|| 8-21-comma ||  || | -35 8 0 8 &gt; || 166.247 ||
|| 13-21-comma ||  || | -57 13 0 13 &gt; || 120.152 ||
|| 55-35-comma ||  || | -282 0 55 55 &gt; || 132.679 ||
|| 63-35-comma ||  || | -323 0 63 63 &gt; || 173.796 ||


==11-limit commas==  
== Disputed status ==
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
To varying degrees, the status of each of the commas on this page as "a comma" is disputed. Due to their large size in [[cents]], many of these commas lead to high-[[damage]] temperaments when tempered out. Which calls into question whether they can actually be used as commas.
|| enipucrop, 9-11-comma&lt;/span || 2357947691 / 2147483648]] || | -31 0 0 0 9 &gt; || 161.8615 ||
|| 11-cycle major second prote, 33-11-comma ||  || | -114 0 0 0 33 &gt; || 193.492 ||


==13-limit commas==
Those which have a highly complex monzo and ratio tend to distribute their error more thinly across a wide number of [[JI]] intervals, making them more 'comma-like' than the others on this page. Some still dispute this due to their perhaps limited ability to make [[comma pump]]s. However they are more widely accepted than the ones on this page with simpler monzos and ratios.
||~ name(s) ||~ ratio ||~ monzo ||~ cents ||
|| heptasixth comma, 13-cycle secor || 67108864 / 62748517 || | 26 0 0 0 0 0 -7 &gt; || 116.306 ||
|| heptadecasixth comma, neutral thirteenth comma ||  || | 63 0 0 0 0 0 -17 &gt; || 111.030 ||
|| 13-cycle neutral second ||  || | -196 0 0 0 0 0 53 &gt; || 147.966 ||</pre></div>
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&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
== List of commas, by prime limit ==
    &lt;tr&gt;
===[[3-limit commas]]===
        &lt;th&gt;name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
&lt;/th&gt;
|-
        &lt;th&gt;ratio&lt;br /&gt;
! Name(s)
&lt;/th&gt;
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
        &lt;th&gt;monzo&lt;br /&gt;
! Ratio
&lt;/th&gt;
! Monzo
        &lt;th&gt;cents&lt;br /&gt;
! Cents
&lt;/th&gt;
|-
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| [[26-comma]]
    &lt;tr&gt;
| Wa-26
        &lt;td&gt;apotome&lt;br /&gt;
| w-26
&lt;/td&gt;
| 2541865828329 / 2199023255552
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/2187_2048"&gt;2187 / 2048&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| -41 26 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 250.83
        &lt;td&gt;| -11 7 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 27-comma
        &lt;td&gt;113.685&lt;br /&gt;
| Wa-27
&lt;/td&gt;
| w-27
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 8796093022208 / 7625597484987
    &lt;tr&gt;
| {{monzo| 43 -27 }}
        &lt;td&gt;19-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| 247.21
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[9/8|Pythagorean whole tone]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| Wa 2nd
        &lt;td&gt;| -30 19 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| w2
&lt;/td&gt;
| 9 / 8
        &lt;td&gt;137.145&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| -3 2 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 203.91
    &lt;/tr&gt;
|-
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 43-comma
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/31%20comma%20temperaments"&gt;31-comma&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Wa-43
&lt;/td&gt;
| w-43
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -68 43 }}
        &lt;td&gt;| -49 31 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 184.065
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;160.605&lt;br /&gt;
| 63-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Wa-63
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| w-63
    &lt;tr&gt;
|
        &lt;td&gt;43-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 100 -63 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 176.835
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[31st-octave temperaments|31-comma]]
        &lt;td&gt;| -68 43 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Wa-31
&lt;/td&gt;
| w-31
        &lt;td&gt;184.065&lt;br /&gt;
| 617673396283947 / <br>562949953421312
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -49 31 }}
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 160.605
    &lt;tr&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;22-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| 22-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Wa-22
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| w-22
&lt;/td&gt;
| 34359738368 / <br>31381059609
        &lt;td&gt;| 35 -22 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 35 -22 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 156.99
        &lt;td&gt;156.990&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 19-comma
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Wa-19
    &lt;tr&gt;
| w-19
        &lt;td&gt;46-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| 1162261467 / 1073741824
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -30 19 }}
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 137.145
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| 73 -46 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[2187/2048|Apotome]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| Lawa
        &lt;td&gt;110.070&lt;br /&gt;
| Lw1
&lt;/td&gt;
| 2187 / 2048
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| {{monzo| -11 7 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 113.685
        &lt;td&gt;63-comma&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 46-comma
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Wa-46
&lt;/td&gt;
| w-46
        &lt;td&gt;| 100 -63 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 73 -46 }}
        &lt;td&gt;176.835&lt;br /&gt;
| 110.07
&lt;/td&gt;
|}
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;70-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 111 -70 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;63.150&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;77-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 122 -77 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;176.815&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;


&lt;br /&gt;
===[[5-limit commas]]===
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{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name(s)
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
! Ratio
! Monzo
! Cents
|-
| [[Shallowtone comma]]
| Lalayobi
| LLy1
| 295245 / 262144
| {{monzo| -18 10 1 }}
| 205.864
|-
| Delorean
| Tribigu
| 6g3
| 17496 / 15625
| {{monzo| 3 7 -6 }}
| 195.803
|-
| 31-3/5-comma
| Thiwegu
| 31g7
|
| {{monzo| 23 31 -31 }}
| 184.88
|-
| [[10/9|Minor whole tone]], yo 2nd
| Yo
| y2
| 10 / 9
| {{monzo| 1 -2 1 }}
| 182.404
|-
| 5-cycle major second, hexadecathird comma
| Lala-quadquadyo
| LL16y-4
| 152587890625 / <br>137438953472
| {{monzo| -37 0 16 }}
| 181.019
|-
| [[Nadir comma]]
| Lalatrigu
| LL3g1
| 1162261467 / 1048576000
| {{monzo| -23 19 -3 }}
| 178.204
|-
|
| Legu
| 11g4
| [[53747712 / 48828125]]
| {{monzo| 13 8 -11 }}
| 166.189
|-
| Enipucrop
| Latriyobi
| L3y1
| 1125 / 1024
| {{monzo| -10 2 3 }}
| 162.851
|-
| [[800/729|Supersharp]]
| Sayoyo
| syy2
| 800 / 729
| {{monzo| 5 -6 2 }}
| 160.897
|-
| [[Nether comma]]
| Lala-gugu
| LLgg1
| 14348907 / 13107200
| {{monzo| -19 15 -2 }}
| 156.698
|-
| [[Rarity comma]]
| Quadla-theyo
| 4L13y-5
|
| {{monzo| -57 17 13 }}
| 155.313
|-
| Gorgo, laconic
| Latrigubi
| L3g2
| 2187 / 2000
| {{monzo| -4 7 -3 }}
| 154.744
|-
| [[2048/1875|Smate]], symbolic comma
| Saquadgu
| s4g3
| 2048 / 1875
| {{monzo| 11 -1 -4 }}
| 152.790
|-
| Acute limma
| Trila-neyobi
| 3L19y-5
| 19073486328125 / <br>17592186044416
| {{monzo| -44 0 19 }}
| 139.961
|-
| 31-15-comma
| Tritrila-thiweyo
| 9L31y-11
|
| {{monzo| -121 31 31 }}
| 136.33
|-
| [[177147/163840|Deeptone comma]], Tragicomma
| Lagu
| Lg1
| 177147 / 163840
| {{monzo| -15 11 -1 }}
| 135.191
|-
| [[27/25|Large limma]]
| Gugu
| gg2
| 27 / 25
| {{monzo| 0 3 -2 }}
| 133.238
|-
| 11-3/5-comma
| Leyo
| 11y-2
| 48828125 / 45349632
| {{monzo| -8 -11 11 }}
| 127.946
|-
| 27-3/5-comma
| Tritritrigu
| 27g6
|
| {{monzo| 20 27 -27 }}
| 122.315
|-
| Lemba
| Latribiyo
| L6y-2
| 140625 / 131072
| {{monzo| -17 2 6 }}
| 121.792
|-
| 87-15-comma
|
|
|
| {{monzo| 340 -87 -87 }}
| 120.622
|-
| [[3125/2916|Sixix comma]]
| Quinyo
| 5y1
| 3125 / 2916
| {{monzo| -2 -6 5 }}
| 119.839
|-
| Diesma
| Lathegu
| L13g3
| 10460353203 / <br>9765625000
| {{monzo| -3 21 -13 }}
| 118.977
|-
| Comic comma
| Saquadyobi
| s4y2
| 5120000 / 4782969
| {{monzo| 13 -14 4 }}
| 117.885
|-
| [[16/15|Just diatonic semitone]]
| Gubi
| g2
| 16 / 15
| {{monzo| 4 -1 -1 }}
| 111.731
|-
| Beatles
| Sasa-gugu
| ssgg3
| 524288 / 492075
| {{monzo| 19 -9 -2 }}
| 109.778
|-
| 300-3/5-comma
|
|
|
| {{monzo| -221 -300 300 }}
| 107.614
|-
| Wronecki
| Latribigu
| L6g2
| 531441 / 500000
| {{monzo| -5 12 -6 }}
| 105.578
|-
| [[Wesley comma]]
| Lasepyobi
| L7y-2
| 78125 / 73728
| {{monzo| -13 -2 7 }}
| 100.286
|}


&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
=== 7-limit commas ===
    &lt;tr&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
        &lt;th&gt;name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
! Name(s)
        &lt;th&gt;ratio&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
&lt;/th&gt;
! Ratio
        &lt;th&gt;monzo&lt;br /&gt;
! Monzo
&lt;/th&gt;
! Cents
        &lt;th&gt;cents&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
| [[Antidilemma]]
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Sasa-theruquad
    &lt;tr&gt;
| ss13r-2
        &lt;td&gt;5-cycle major second, hexadecathird comma&lt;br /&gt;
| 137438953472 / 96889010407
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 37 0 0 -13 }}
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 605.263
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| -37 0 16 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[Dilemma]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| Lala-thezoquad
        &lt;td&gt;181.019&lt;br /&gt;
| LL13z9
&lt;/td&gt;
| 96889010407 / 68719476736
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| {{monzo| -36 0 0 13 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 594.737
        &lt;td&gt;acute limma&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[8/7|Septimal major second]], supermajor second,
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
augmented whole-tone, ru 2nd
&lt;/td&gt;
| Rubi
        &lt;td&gt;| -44 0 19 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| r2
&lt;/td&gt;
| 8 / 7
        &lt;td&gt;139.961&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 3 0 0 -1 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 231.174
    &lt;/tr&gt;
|-
    &lt;tr&gt;
| Hexatone comma, 6-7-comma
        &lt;td&gt;meantone Integer cents comma&lt;br /&gt;
| Satribiru
&lt;/td&gt;
| s6r-2
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 131072 / 117649
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 17 0 0 -6 }}
        &lt;td&gt;| -1393 0 600 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 187.045
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;188.228&lt;br /&gt;
| 45-7/5-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Quintritriruyo
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 45ry-27
    &lt;tr&gt;
|
        &lt;td&gt;31-15-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 22 0 45 -45 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 186.951
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 63-35-comma
        &lt;td&gt;| 121 -31 -31 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Tritribila-septritrizoyo
&lt;/td&gt;
| 18L63zy8
        &lt;td&gt;136.330&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -323 0 63 63 }}
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 173.796
    &lt;tr&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;87-15-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| 8-21-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Lala-quadbizo
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| LL8z4
&lt;/td&gt;
| 37822859361 / <br>34359738368
        &lt;td&gt;| 340 -87 -87 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| -35 8 0 8 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 166.247
        &lt;td&gt;120.622&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 46-7-comma
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Sepla-twethebizobi
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 7L46z18
        &lt;td&gt;enipucrop&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -129 0 0 46 }}
        &lt;td&gt;1125 / 1024&lt;br /&gt;
| 165.992
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| -10 2 3 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 25-7/5-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Quinquinzogu
        &lt;td&gt;162.851&lt;br /&gt;
| 25zg17
&lt;/td&gt;
|
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| {{monzo| -12 0 -25 25 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 162.805
        &lt;td&gt;supersharp&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 43-21-comma
        &lt;td&gt;800 / 729&lt;br /&gt;
| Quadtrisa-fotherubi
&lt;/td&gt;
| 12s43r-11
        &lt;td&gt;| 5 -6 2 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 189 -43 0 -43 }}
        &lt;td&gt;160.897&lt;br /&gt;
| 156.421
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| [[35/32|Septimal neutral second]], 35th harmonic
    &lt;tr&gt;
| Zoyo
        &lt;td&gt;gorgo&lt;br /&gt;
| zy2
&lt;/td&gt;
| 35 / 32
        &lt;td&gt;2187 / 2000&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| -5 0 1 1 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 155.140
        &lt;td&gt;| -4 7 -3 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 43-7/5-comma
        &lt;td&gt;154.744&lt;br /&gt;
| Fotheruyo
&lt;/td&gt;
| 43ry-26
    &lt;/tr&gt;
|
    &lt;tr&gt;
| {{monzo| 21 0 43 -43 }}
        &lt;td&gt;large limma&lt;br /&gt;
| 151.976
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/27_25"&gt;27 / 25&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[49/45|Swetismic neutral second]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| Zozogu
        &lt;td&gt;| 0 3 -1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| zzg3
&lt;/td&gt;
| 49 / 45
        &lt;td&gt;133.238&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 0 -2 -1 2 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 147.428
    &lt;/tr&gt;
|-
    &lt;tr&gt;
| [[160/147]]
        &lt;td&gt;lemba&lt;br /&gt;
| Ruruyobi
&lt;/td&gt;
| rry1
        &lt;td&gt;140625 / 131072&lt;br /&gt;
| 160 / 147
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 5 -1 1 -2 }}
        &lt;td&gt;| -17 2 6 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 146.707
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;121.792&lt;br /&gt;
| Hendecatone comma, 11-7-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Sasa-leru
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| ss11r-4
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 2147483648 / 1977326743
        &lt;td&gt;sixix&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 31 0 0 -11 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 142.915
        &lt;td&gt;3125 / 2916&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[243/224|Septimal subtone]]
        &lt;td&gt;| -2 -6 5 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Larubi
&lt;/td&gt;
| Lr1
        &lt;td&gt;119.839&lt;br /&gt;
| 243 / 224
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -5 5 0 -1 }}
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 140.949
    &lt;tr&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;diesma&lt;br /&gt;
| 55-35-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Quadquadla-lequinzoyobi
        &lt;td&gt;10460353203 / 9765625000&lt;br /&gt;
| 16L55zy7
&lt;/td&gt;
|
        &lt;td&gt;| -3 21 -13 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| -282 0 55 55 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 132.679
        &lt;td&gt;118.977&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 27-7/5-comma
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Tritritrizogu
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 27zg18
        &lt;td&gt;comic&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -13 0 -27 27 }}
        &lt;td&gt;5120000 / 4782969&lt;br /&gt;
| 127.829
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| 13 -14 4 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41-7-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Tribila-fowezo
        &lt;td&gt;117.885&lt;br /&gt;
| 6L41z16
&lt;/td&gt;
|
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| {{monzo| -115 0 0 41 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 121.862
        &lt;td&gt;just diatonic semitone&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 13-21-comma
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;a class="wiki_link" href="/16_15"&gt;16 / 15&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Quadla-thezobi
&lt;/td&gt;
| 4L13z5
        &lt;td&gt;| 4 -1 -1&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -57 13 0 13 }}
        &lt;td&gt;111.731&lt;br /&gt;
| 120.152
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| [[15/14|Major diatonic semitone]]
    &lt;tr&gt;
| Ruyo
        &lt;td&gt;beatles&lt;br /&gt;
| ry1
&lt;/td&gt;
| 15 / 14
        &lt;td&gt;524288 / 492075&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| -1 1 1 -1 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 119.443
        &lt;td&gt;| 19 -9 -2 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[Primate comma]]
        &lt;td&gt;109.778&lt;br /&gt;
| Saru
&lt;/td&gt;
| sr2
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 16384 / 15309
    &lt;tr&gt;
| {{monzo| 14 -7 0 -1 }}
        &lt;td&gt;wronecki&lt;br /&gt;
| 117.489
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;531441 / 500000&lt;br /&gt;
| 41-7/5-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Foweruyo
        &lt;td&gt;| -5 12 -6 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 41ry-25
&lt;/td&gt;
|
        &lt;td&gt;105.578&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 20 0 41 -41 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 117
    &lt;/tr&gt;
|-
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 7-35-comma
        &lt;td&gt;wesley&lt;br /&gt;
| Sasa-seprugu
&lt;/td&gt;
| ss7rg1
        &lt;td&gt;78125 / 73728&lt;br /&gt;
| 68719476736 / <br>64339296875
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 36 0 -7 -7 }}
        &lt;td&gt;| -13 -2 7 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| 114.023
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;100.286&lt;br /&gt;
| 38-21-comma
&lt;/td&gt;
| Lesa-nebiru
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 11s38r-10
    &lt;tr&gt;
|
        &lt;td&gt;11-3/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 167 -38 0 -38 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 110.326
        &lt;td&gt;48828125 / 45339632&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[729/686|Triru comma]]
        &lt;td&gt;| -8 -11 11 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Triru
&lt;/td&gt;
| 3r-2
        &lt;td&gt;127.946&lt;br /&gt;
| 729 / 686
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -1 6 0 -3 }}
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 105.252
    &lt;tr&gt;
|}
        &lt;td&gt;27-3/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 20 27 -27 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;122.315&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;31-3/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 23 31 -31 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;184.880&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;Keemun Integer cents comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 221 300 -300 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;107.614&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;


&lt;br /&gt;
=== 11-limit commas ===
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:4:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc2"&gt;&lt;a name="x-7-limit commas"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:4 --&gt;7-limit commas&lt;/h2&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name(s)
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
! Ratio
! Monzo
! Cents
|-
| 11-cycle major second prote, 33-11-comma
| Quinla-letrilobi
| 5L33(1o)-7
|
| {{monzo| -114 0 0 0 33 }}
| 193.492
|-
| 4/5-tone, Ptolemy's second
| Logu
| 1og2
| [[11/10|11 / 10]]
| {{monzo| -1 0 -1 0 1 }}
| 165.004
|-
| 11-enipucrop, 9-11-comma
| Latritrilo
| L9(1o)-2
| 2357947691 / 2147483648
| {{monzo| -31 0 0 0 9 }}
| 161.862
|-
| 3/4-tone, undecimal neutral second
| Lu
| 1u2
| [[12/11|12 / 11]]
| {{monzo| 2 1 0 0 -1 }}
| 150.637
|-
| [[Secor|Undecimal secor]]
| Lozo
| 1oz2
| [[77/72|77 / 72]]
| {{monzo| -3 -2 0 1 1 }}
| 116.234
|}


&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
=== 13-limit commas ===
    &lt;tr&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
        &lt;th&gt;name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
! Name(s)
        &lt;th&gt;ratio&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
&lt;/th&gt;
! Ratio
        &lt;th&gt;monzo&lt;br /&gt;
! Monzo
&lt;/th&gt;
! Cents
        &lt;th&gt;cents&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
| 13-cycle neutral second
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Quadbila-fithethobi
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 8L53(3o)7
        &lt;td&gt;hexatone comma, 6-7-comma&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -196 0 0 0 0 53 }}
        &lt;td&gt;131072 / 117649&lt;br /&gt;
| 147.966
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| 17 0 0 -6 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Large tridecimal 2/3-tone, tridecimal neutral second
&lt;/td&gt;
| Tho
        &lt;td&gt;187.045&lt;br /&gt;
| 3o2
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[13/12|13 / 12]]
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| {{monzo| -2 -1 0 0 0 1 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 138.573
        &lt;td&gt;hendecatone comma, 11-7-comma&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| Small tridecimal 2/3-tone, tridecimal limma, trienthird
        &lt;td&gt;2147483648 / 1977326743&lt;br /&gt;
| Thuzo
&lt;/td&gt;
| 3uz2
        &lt;td&gt;| 31 0 0 -11 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[14/13|14 / 13]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| 1 0 0 1 0 -1 }}
        &lt;td&gt;142.915&lt;br /&gt;
| 128.298
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Heptasixth comma, 13-cycle secor
    &lt;tr&gt;
| Sasepthu
        &lt;td&gt;41-7-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| s7(3u)1
&lt;/td&gt;
| 67108864 / 62748517
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| {{monzo| 26 0 0 0 0 -7 }}
&lt;/td&gt;
| 116.306
        &lt;td&gt;| -115 0 0 41 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| Heptadecasixth comma, neutral thirteenth comma
        &lt;td&gt;121.862&lt;br /&gt;
| Sasa-sethubi
&lt;/td&gt;
| ss17(3u)-2
    &lt;/tr&gt;
|
    &lt;tr&gt;
| {{monzo| 63 0 0 0 0 -17 }}
        &lt;td&gt;46-7-comma&lt;br /&gt;
| 111.030
&lt;/td&gt;
|}
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -129 0 0 46 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;165.992&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;25-7/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -12 0 -25 25 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;162.805&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;27-7/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -13 0 -27 27 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;127.829&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;41-7/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 21 0 41 -41 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;117.000&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;43-7/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 22 0 43 -43 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;151.976&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;45-7/5-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 23 0 45 -45 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;186.951&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;8-21-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -35 8 0 8 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;166.247&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13-21-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -57 13 0 13 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;120.152&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;55-35-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -282 0 55 55 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;132.679&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;63-35-comma&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -323 0 63 63 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;173.796&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;


&lt;br /&gt;
=== 17-limit commas ===
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:6:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc3"&gt;&lt;a name="x-11-limit commas"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:6 --&gt;11-limit commas&lt;/h2&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name(s)
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
! Ratio
! Monzo
! Cents
|-
| 17-limit rational eventone
| Sogubi
| 17og3
| [[17/15|17 / 15]]
| {{monzo| 0 -1 -1 0 0 0 1 }}
| 216.687
|-
| 17th harmonic
| Iso
| 17o2
| [[17/16|17 / 16]]
| {{monzo| -4 0 0 0 0 0 1 }}
| 104.955
|}


&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
=== 19-limit commas ===
    &lt;tr&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
        &lt;th&gt;name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
! Name(s)
        &lt;th&gt;ratio&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
&lt;/th&gt;
! Ratio
        &lt;th&gt;monzo&lt;br /&gt;
! Monzo
&lt;/th&gt;
! Cents
        &lt;th&gt;cents&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
| 19-cycle meantone prima
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Tribila-foweno
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 6L41(19o)13
        &lt;td&gt;enipucrop, 9-11-comma&amp;lt;/span&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -174 0 0 0 0 0 0 41 }}
        &lt;td&gt;2357947691 / 2147483648]]&lt;br /&gt;
| 198.034
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| -31 0 0 0 9 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Undevicesimal rational meantone
&lt;/td&gt;
| Nosu
        &lt;td&gt;161.8615&lt;br /&gt;
| 19o17u2
&lt;/td&gt;
| [[19/17|19 / 17]]
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| {{monzo| 0 0 0 0 0 0 -1 1 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 192.558
        &lt;td&gt;11-cycle major second prote, 33-11-comma&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/td&gt;
| 19-cycle meantone secunda
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| Tribila-quintritrino
&lt;/td&gt;
| 6L45(19o)14
        &lt;td&gt;| -114 0 0 0 33 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|
&lt;/td&gt;
| {{monzo| -191 0 0 0 0 0 0 45 }}
        &lt;td&gt;193.492&lt;br /&gt;
| 188.086
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 19-cycle minor tone
&lt;/table&gt;
| Sepla-sepsepno
| 7L49(19o)15
|
| {{monzo| -208 0 0 0 0 0 0 49 }}
| 178.138
|-
| Undevicesimal rational submajor second
| Nuzo
| 19uz2
| [[21/19|21 / 19]]
| {{monzo| 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 -1 }}
| 173.268
|-
| 19-cycle submajor second
| Quadbila-fithenobi
| 8L53(19o)16
|
| {{monzo| -225 0 0 0 0 0 0 53 }}
| 168.190
|-
| [[81/76|Dog comma]]
| Inu
| 19u1
| 81 / 76
| {{monzo| -2 4 0 0 0 0 0 -1 }}
| 110.307
|}


&lt;br /&gt;
=== 23-limit commas ===
&lt;!-- ws:start:WikiTextHeadingRule:8:&amp;lt;h2&amp;gt; --&gt;&lt;h2 id="toc4"&gt;&lt;a name="x-13-limit commas"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;!-- ws:end:WikiTextHeadingRule:8 --&gt;13-limit commas&lt;/h2&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
|-
! Name(s)
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
! Ratio
! Monzo
! Cents
|-
| Large vicesimotertial neutral second
| Twethoru
| 23or2
| [[23/21|23 / 21]]
| 3.7.23 {{monzo| -1 -1 1 }}
| 157.493
|-
| Small vicesimotertial neutral second
| Twethuyoyo
| 23uyy1
| [[25/23|25 / 23]]
| 5.23 {{monzo| 2 -1 }}
| 144.353
|-
| 69th harmonic
| Twetho
| 23o2
| [[69/64|69 / 64]]
| 2.3.23 {{monzo| -6 1 1 }}
| 130.229
|}


&lt;table class="wiki_table"&gt;
=== Higher-limit commas ===
    &lt;tr&gt;
{| class="wikitable"
        &lt;th&gt;name(s)&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
! Name(s)
        &lt;th&gt;ratio&lt;br /&gt;
! colspan="2" |[[Color notation|Color Name]]
&lt;/th&gt;
! Ratio
        &lt;th&gt;monzo&lt;br /&gt;
! Monzo
&lt;/th&gt;
! Cents
        &lt;th&gt;cents&lt;br /&gt;
|-
&lt;/th&gt;
| 29th subharmonic
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| Twenu
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 29u2
        &lt;td&gt;heptasixth comma, 13-cycle secor&lt;br /&gt;
| [[32/29|32 / 29]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| 2.29 {{monzo| 5 -1 }}
        &lt;td&gt;67108864 / 62748517&lt;br /&gt;
| 170.423
&lt;/td&gt;
|-
        &lt;td&gt;| 26 0 0 0 0 0 -7 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
| [[47/44]]
&lt;/td&gt;
| Fosolu
        &lt;td&gt;116.306&lt;br /&gt;
| 47o1u2
&lt;/td&gt;
| 47 / 44
    &lt;/tr&gt;
| 2.11.47 {{monzo| -2 -1 1 }}
    &lt;tr&gt;
| 114.189
        &lt;td&gt;heptadecasixth comma, neutral thirteenth comma&lt;br /&gt;
|}
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| 63 0 0 0 0 0 -17 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;111.030&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
    &lt;tr&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;13-cycle neutral second&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;| -196 0 0 0 0 0 53 &amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
        &lt;td&gt;147.966&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/td&gt;
    &lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;/table&gt;


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