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The '''schisma''', '''32805/32768''', is the difference between the [[Pythagorean comma]] and the [[syntonic comma]]. It is equal to ([[9/8]])<sup>4</sup>/([[8/5]]) and to ([[135/128]])/([[256/243]]) and also to ([[9/8]])<sup>3</sup>/([[64/45]]). Tempering it out gives a [[5-limit]] microtemperament called [[Schismatic family#Schismatic aka Helmholtz|schismatic, schismic or Helmholtz]], which if extended to larger subgroups leads to the [[schismatic family]] of temperaments.
The '''schisma''', '''32805/32768''', is a small interval about 2 [[cent]]s. It arises as the difference between the [[Pythagorean comma]] and the [[syntonic comma]]. It is equal to ([[9/8]])<sup>4</sup>/([[8/5]]) and to ([[135/128]])/([[256/243]]) and also to ([[9/8]])<sup>3</sup>/([[64/45]]).  


== Trivia ==
== History and etymology ==
The schisma explains how the greatly composite numbers 1048576 (2<sup>20</sup>) and 104976 (18<sup>4</sup>) look alike in decimal. The largest common power of two between these numbers is 2<sup>5</sup>, (when 1049760 is written to equalize) and when reduced by that, 1049760/1048576 becomes 32805/32768.
''Schisma'' is a borrowing of Ancient Greek, meaning "split". The term was first used by [[Boethius]] (6th century), in his ''De institutione musica'', using it to refer to half of the [[Pythagorean comma]]. The modern sense was introduced by [[Helmholtz]]' ''On the Sensations of Tone'', in particular the translation by [[Alexander Ellis]], where it is spelled ''skhisma''. Since it is extremely close to the [[superparticular]] ratio [[887/886]] {{nowrap|(2<sup>-1</sup> 443<sup>-1</sup> 887)}}, it is used interchangably with this interval in some of Helmholtz' writing.


== Schismic temperaments derivable from its S-expressions ==
== Temperaments ==
{{main|Schismatic family}}
Tempering out this comma gives a [[5-limit]] microtemperament called [[schismic|schismatic, schismic or helmholtz]], which if extended to larger [[subgroup]]s leads to the [[schismatic family]] of temperaments.


=== [[Nestoria]] ===
== Other intervals ==
As the schisma is expressible as [[361/360|S19]]/([[1216/1215|S16/S18]])<sup>2</sup> and ([[513/512|S15/S20]])/([[1216/1215|S16/S18]]), we can derive the 12&53 temperament:


Subgroup: 2.3.5.19
Commas arising from the difference between a stack of Pythagorean intervals and other primes may also be called schismas. The difference between the [[Pythagorean comma]] and [[septimal comma]] is called the [[septimal schisma]]. Other examples are [[undevicesimal schisma]] and [[Alpharabian schisma]].


Patent EDO tunings: 12, 17, 24, 29, 36, 41, 53, 65, 77, 82, 89, 94, 101, 106, 118, 130, 135, 142, 147, 154, 159, 171, 183, 195, 207, 219, 248, 260, 272
== Trivia ==
 
The schisma explains how the greatly composite numbers 1048576 (2<sup>20</sup>) and 104976 (18<sup>4</sup>) look alike in decimal. The largest common power of two between these numbers is 2<sup>5</sup>, (when 1049760 is written to equalize) and when reduced by that, 1049760/1048576 becomes 32805/32768.
CTE generator: 701.684{{cent}}
 
=== [[Garibaldi]] ===
As the schisma is also equal to [[225/224|S15]]/([[5120/5103|S8/S9]]), we can derive the 41&53 temperament:
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7
 
Patent EDO tunings: 12, 29, 41, 53, 82, 94, 106, 135, 147
 
CTE generator: 702.059{{cent}}
 
==== 2.3.5.7.19[53&147] (garibaldi nestoria) ====
Adding Nestoria to Garibaldi (tempering [[400/399|S20]]) results in an extremely elegant temperament which has all of the same patent tunings that Garibaldi has but which includes a mapping for 19 through Nestoria.
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.19
 
Patent EDO tunings: 12, 29, 41, 53, 82, 94, 106, 135, 147
 
CTE generator: 702.043{{cent}}
 
=== 2.3.5.7.17[12&130&171] (unnamed) ===
As the schisma also equals [[57375/57344|S15/S16]] * [[1701/1700|S18/S20]], we can derive the extremely accurate 12&41 temperament:
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17
 
Patent EDO tunings < 300 (largest is 2548): 12, 29, 41, 53, 118, 130, 142, 159, 171, 183, 212, 224, 236, 289
 
CTE generators: (2/1,) 3/2 = 701.72{{cent}}, 7/4 = 968.831{{cent}}
 
==== 2.3.5.7.17.19[12&130&171] (unnamed Nestoria) ====
By tempering [[1216/1215|S16/S18]] we equate [[225/224|S15]] with [[400/399|S20]] (tempering the other comma of Nestoria) because of S15~S16~S18~S20, leading to:
 
Subgroup: 2.3.5.7.17.19
 
Patent EDO tunings: 12, 29, 41, 53, 118, 130, 142, 159, 171, 183
 
CTE generators: (2/1,) 3/2 = 701.705{{cent}}, 7/4 = 968.928{{cent}}


== See also ==
== See also ==
* [[Pythagorean tuning]]
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]
* [[Unnoticeable comma]]


[[Category:Schismatic]]
[[Category:Schismatic]]
[[Category:Commas named for their regular temperament properties]]

Latest revision as of 14:11, 6 August 2025

Interval information
Ratio 32805/32768
Factorization 2-15 × 38 × 5
Monzo [-15 8 1
Size in cents 1.953721¢
Name schisma
Color name Ly-2, Layo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{d}{-2}^{5} }[/math]
Special properties reduced,
reduced harmonic
Tenney height (log2 nd) 30.0016
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 30.0033
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 59
Comma size unnoticeable
Open this interval in xen-calc
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The schisma, 32805/32768, is a small interval about 2 cents. It arises as the difference between the Pythagorean comma and the syntonic comma. It is equal to (9/8)4/(8/5) and to (135/128)/(256/243) and also to (9/8)3/(64/45).

History and etymology

Schisma is a borrowing of Ancient Greek, meaning "split". The term was first used by Boethius (6th century), in his De institutione musica, using it to refer to half of the Pythagorean comma. The modern sense was introduced by Helmholtz' On the Sensations of Tone, in particular the translation by Alexander Ellis, where it is spelled skhisma. Since it is extremely close to the superparticular ratio 887/886 (2-1 443-1 887), it is used interchangably with this interval in some of Helmholtz' writing.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma gives a 5-limit microtemperament called schismatic, schismic or helmholtz, which if extended to larger subgroups leads to the schismatic family of temperaments.

Other intervals

Commas arising from the difference between a stack of Pythagorean intervals and other primes may also be called schismas. The difference between the Pythagorean comma and septimal comma is called the septimal schisma. Other examples are undevicesimal schisma and Alpharabian schisma.

Trivia

The schisma explains how the greatly composite numbers 1048576 (220) and 104976 (184) look alike in decimal. The largest common power of two between these numbers is 25, (when 1049760 is written to equalize) and when reduced by that, 1049760/1048576 becomes 32805/32768.

See also