Talk:Subgroup temperaments: Difference between revisions

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== Page is too cluttered ==

We'd better soon split this page into several, probably by subgroups. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:56, 28 September 2021 (UTC)

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== "Breedsmic" ==

I don't suppose meaningful distinction can be made between "breed" and "breedsmic". Iow both should be referring to the same 7-limit rank-3 temperament, not this fractional subgroup thing. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:24, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

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: There's the distinction of subgroup CTE vs inharmonic CTE for fractional subgroup temperaments. If you happen to know which scheme is used in sintel's calculator feel free to clarify. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

: By comparing Sintel's calculator and x31eq, I have confirmed Sintel's calculator uses subgroup ''TE''. ~~I assume~~ Sintel's calculator is consistent in using subgroup tuning for both TE and CTE, but I cannot confirm this because x31eq does not show CTE.

:: By comparing Sintel's calculator and x31eq, I have confirmed Sintel's calculator uses subgroup ''TE''. It is very likely Sintel's calculator is consistent in using subgroup tuning for both TE and CTE, but I cannot confirm this because x31eq does not show CTE.

[[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] ([[User talk:CompactStar|talk]]) 07:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

::: Alright. That's a good reason to believe it's subgroup CTE. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 08:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)

:::: Just want to confirm that the calculator indeed does subgroup TE for both cases. - [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]])

== Baldy -> baldi ==

This name change would make the temperament's connection to garibaldi more obvious. -- [[User:VectorGraphics|VectorGraphics]] ([[User talk:VectorGraphics|talk]]) 01:40, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

: I personally think it's obvious enough already. "Baldy" is used on many other pages, so the community should decide whether to change before updating it across the wiki. --[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 03:42, 2 June 2026 (UTC)

== Organizing fractional-subgroup temperaments ==

I don't see why it's desirable to group them by the first fractional element in the subgroup basis. Does it not make more sense to group 2.3.7/5 with 2.3.11/7, for example? —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:48, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

: The real question is twofold. Firstly, are there any other pages that use this organisation method? And secondly, are you willing to ''carefully'' reorganise the whole page in alignment to your preferred principle? I am in favour of your organisation FWIW as the page looks like a total mess to me so at the very least it'd be an improvement. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 16:14, 20 June 2026 (UTC)

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 == Page is too cluttered ==
 We'd better soon split this page into several, probably by subgroups. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 18:56, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
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 == "Breedsmic" ==
 I don't suppose meaningful distinction can be made between "breed" and "breedsmic". Iow both should be referring to the same 7-limit rank-3 temperament, not this fractional subgroup thing. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 07:24, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
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 : There's the distinction of subgroup CTE vs inharmonic CTE for fractional subgroup temperaments. If you happen to know which scheme is used in sintel's calculator feel free to clarify. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 06:17, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
-: By comparing Sintel's calculator and x31eq, I have confirmed Sintel's calculator uses subgroup ''TE''. I assume Sintel's calculator is consistent in using subgroup tuning for both TE and CTE, but I cannot confirm this because x31eq does not show CTE.
+:: By comparing Sintel's calculator and x31eq, I have confirmed Sintel's calculator uses subgroup ''TE''. It is very likely Sintel's calculator is consistent in using subgroup tuning for both TE and CTE, but I cannot confirm this because x31eq does not show CTE.
 [[User:CompactStar|CompactStar]] ([[User talk:CompactStar|talk]]) 07:28, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
+::: Alright. That's a good reason to believe it's subgroup CTE. [[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 08:19, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
+:::: Just want to confirm that the calculator indeed does subgroup TE for both cases. - [[User:Sintel|Sintel]] ([[User talk:Sintel|talk]])
+== Baldy -> baldi ==
+This name change would make the temperament's connection to garibaldi more obvious. -- [[User:VectorGraphics|VectorGraphics]] ([[User talk:VectorGraphics|talk]]) 01:40, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
+: I personally think it's obvious enough already. "Baldy" is used on many other pages, so the community should decide whether to change before updating it across the wiki. --[[User:Overthink|Overthink]] ([[User talk:Overthink|talk]]) 03:42, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
+== Organizing fractional-subgroup temperaments ==
+I don't see why it's desirable to group them by the first fractional element in the subgroup basis. Does it not make more sense to group 2.3.7/5 with 2.3.11/7, for example? —[[User:FloraC|FloraC]] ([[User talk:FloraC|talk]]) 15:48, 20 June 2026 (UTC)
+: The real question is twofold. Firstly, are there any other pages that use this organisation method? And secondly, are you willing to ''carefully'' reorganise the whole page in alignment to your preferred principle? I am in favour of your organisation FWIW as the page looks like a total mess to me so at the very least it'd be an improvement. --[[User:Godtone|Godtone]] ([[User talk:Godtone|talk]]) 16:14, 20 June 2026 (UTC)