User talk:Flirora/EDO impressions: Difference between revisions

From Xenharmonic Wiki
Jump to navigation Jump to search
Flirora (talk | contribs)
No edit summary
Aura (talk | contribs)
capitalization fix
 
(6 intermediate revisions by 2 users not shown)
Line 9: Line 9:
Hello.  I just saw your EDO impressions page, and when I saw that you said there's not much point in going much bigger than 31edo, I must confess that my first thought was "Really now?  You must not have heard of my more recent song '[[:File:Space_Tour.mp3|Space Tour]]'..." and I'm sure such a thing is quite rude, so I'm sorry about that.  Still, I do have to say that as others have listened to the song- written in a near-perfect approximation of [[159edo]]- and they seem to really like it.  I hope you like it too. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 15:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Hello.  I just saw your EDO impressions page, and when I saw that you said there's not much point in going much bigger than 31edo, I must confess that my first thought was "Really now?  You must not have heard of my more recent song '[[:File:Space_Tour.mp3|Space Tour]]'..." and I'm sure such a thing is quite rude, so I'm sorry about that.  Still, I do have to say that as others have listened to the song- written in a near-perfect approximation of [[159edo]]- and they seem to really like it.  I hope you like it too. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 15:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
: Yep, I've listened to it a few days ago and loved it. Perhaps "not much of a point in going bigger" is the wrong wording; sorry if it got to you in the wrong way. I think it's a combination of "larger EDOs having less distinct character/fewer limitations" and "larger EDOs being less practical to work with". --[[User:Flirora|Flirora]] ([[User talk:Flirora|talk]]) 15:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
: Yep, I've listened to it a few days ago and loved it. Perhaps "not much of a point in going bigger" is the wrong wording; sorry if it got to you in the wrong way. I think it's a combination of "larger EDOs having less distinct character/fewer limitations" and "larger EDOs being less practical to work with". --[[User:Flirora|Flirora]] ([[User talk:Flirora|talk]]) 15:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
:: I do understand, and again, sorry about being rude- and dare I say prideful.  I should point out that mega-edos do have their own distinct character from one another, although you do have to know what to listen for- for example, 159edo's character is like that of 53edo when it comes to the 3-limit, but since a stack of three tempered [[8/7]] intervals equal a tempered [[3/2]] perfect fifth, that gives 159edo a slightly different character than 53edo when it comes to the 7-limit.  Also, since a stack of three tempered [[128/121]] diatonic semitones equals a tempered [[32/27]] minor third, that lends to another case of 159edo having a slightly different character.  For me, what prevents me from going too much larger is that 171 is the largest EDO with what I consider to be a reasonable step size, as larger mega-EDOs are characterized by having half an EDO-step being unnoticeable, and that's too small for me- I'd rather work with a mega-EDO with steps that are noticeable when played at the same time.  Funny enough, my first microtonal song was in 24edo- "[[:File:Folly of a Drunk.mp3|Folly of a Drunk]]", and this song has some unique harmonic motion. --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
::: I didn't see your comment as rude, personally. Thanks for elaborating on it, though. --[[User:Flirora|Flirora]] ([[User talk:Flirora|talk]]) 16:38, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
:::: Elaborating on which?  My initial reaction or my reasonings concerning 159edo? --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 16:56, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
::::: Your reasons for using 159edo. --[[User:Flirora|Flirora]] ([[User talk:Flirora|talk]]) 17:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
:::::: Ah.  I hope that one day, we can make 159edo more practical- it won't be easy though, and working with any mega-EDO requires separating the available pitches into "main tones" and "variant tones". --[[User:Aura|Aura]] ([[User talk:Aura|talk]]) 17:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 17:20, 10 December 2020

Diatonicity notation

This m,n-diatonic notation looks quite expressive to me. Is this just an ad hoc invention of yours or a more common convention? --Xenwolf (talk) 11:34, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

It's an ad hoc invention of mine. --Flirora (talk) 13:02, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Space Tour

Hello. I just saw your EDO impressions page, and when I saw that you said there's not much point in going much bigger than 31edo, I must confess that my first thought was "Really now? You must not have heard of my more recent song 'Space Tour'..." and I'm sure such a thing is quite rude, so I'm sorry about that. Still, I do have to say that as others have listened to the song- written in a near-perfect approximation of 159edo- and they seem to really like it. I hope you like it too. --Aura (talk) 15:30, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Yep, I've listened to it a few days ago and loved it. Perhaps "not much of a point in going bigger" is the wrong wording; sorry if it got to you in the wrong way. I think it's a combination of "larger EDOs having less distinct character/fewer limitations" and "larger EDOs being less practical to work with". --Flirora (talk) 15:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I do understand, and again, sorry about being rude- and dare I say prideful. I should point out that mega-edos do have their own distinct character from one another, although you do have to know what to listen for- for example, 159edo's character is like that of 53edo when it comes to the 3-limit, but since a stack of three tempered 8/7 intervals equal a tempered 3/2 perfect fifth, that gives 159edo a slightly different character than 53edo when it comes to the 7-limit. Also, since a stack of three tempered 128/121 diatonic semitones equals a tempered 32/27 minor third, that lends to another case of 159edo having a slightly different character. For me, what prevents me from going too much larger is that 171 is the largest EDO with what I consider to be a reasonable step size, as larger mega-EDOs are characterized by having half an EDO-step being unnoticeable, and that's too small for me- I'd rather work with a mega-EDO with steps that are noticeable when played at the same time. Funny enough, my first microtonal song was in 24edo- "Folly of a Drunk", and this song has some unique harmonic motion. --Aura (talk) 16:18, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
I didn't see your comment as rude, personally. Thanks for elaborating on it, though. --Flirora (talk) 16:38, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Elaborating on which? My initial reaction or my reasonings concerning 159edo? --Aura (talk) 16:56, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Your reasons for using 159edo. --Flirora (talk) 17:05, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
Ah. I hope that one day, we can make 159edo more practical- it won't be easy though, and working with any mega-EDO requires separating the available pitches into "main tones" and "variant tones". --Aura (talk) 17:16, 10 December 2020 (UTC)