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== Note to self: Possible future translations ==
Do You - Spoon (splits a M2 into 3, instead of 2)<br>
Make Me Feel - Janelle Monáe (splits a M2 into 4, instead of 2)<br>
see Stephen W's video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bwl1fiGqJA [[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 08:07, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
== Monospaced Font for Guitar Tabs ==
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: This is not quite correct, you can use indentation by one space for each line of a code box (including empty lines), or enclosing the whole code block with <tt>pre</tt> tags. the <tt>tt</tt> tag and the <code>code</code> tag are both used for inline code sections. Maybe this should be explained a bit more on some help page. <br> Best regards --[[User:Xenwolf|Xenwolf]] ([[User talk:Xenwolf|talk]]) 16:04, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
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I do think a beginners' version without all the variations of chords would be worth doing as it could focus on inversions and melody incorporation to make the whole arrangement work nicely. The simple I^m - bVIIv - ^bVIv - Vv is trivially easy and the melody variations around that are pretty doable. --[[User:Wolftune|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune|talk]]) 22:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
I do think a beginners' version without all the variations of chords would be worth doing as it could focus on inversions and melody incorporation to make the whole arrangement work nicely. The simple I^m - bVIIv - ^bVIv - Vv is trivially easy and the melody variations around that are pretty doable. --[[User:Wolftune|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune|talk]]) 22:01, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
UPDATE: After playing more, I'm convinced that the whole thing works smoothly enough, with or without all the embellishments, including even the IV^m. The chords in total are clearer when written as though the song were in the relative major, the full list is: Iv, vII^m, vIII^m, vIIIv, IVv, Vv, vVI^m — super straightforward. The full order for the first half using that reference is: vVI^m - Iv - Vv - vIII^m - IVv - vII^m - vIIIv
also, I can play functional version with inversions and melody interwoven with chords and it works fine on 6-strings without lots of challenges. --[[User:Wolftune|Wolftune]] ([[User talk:Wolftune|talk]]) 22:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
== Note to self: Dear Ruby by Thelonious Monk ==
Note to self for a possible future translation: I got the Ruby chords from ultimate guitar and translated them to 41edo. I didn't study the song, barely listened to it. So this is not an in-depth translation, just a rough draft of sorts. Just looked at the lattice and avoided pitch shifts on common tones. It went well. I stuck to 5-limit, except for the dom7 and dim7 chords. No glaring weirdnesses.
I didn't analyze the melody. If the melody plays a sustained 9th above a v6 chord, I would probably drop the 5th from the chord and tune the 9th as a v9.
The ^Ab^d7 chord after the 1st line of the verse makes an uneven root movement. Maybe better as vAb^d7. I was trying to keep the 7th of the previous chord the same as the 6th of this chord. But maybe not worth doing, since the pitch shift would be 2\41 not 1\41.
2nd line, Dbd7 followed by Bbd7 is weird because they're the same chord in 12edo! They're different chords in 41. So unless you just hold the same chord, you have pitch shifts. I would have to know the song better to do a good translation there.
The ^d7(~5) chords may be too dissonant and may need to be regular ^d7 chords. The ~5 avoids a pitch shift of 2\41, which may be fine, since it's not 1\41.
In the outro, after the first line we have IVM7 followed by Vm7, a meantone pitch shift. One shift in the whole song, not bad. Easily hideable by voicing the root of the IV chord low and the 7th of the V chord high, as one would normally do anyway.
Since writing this, I'm told these are not the correct chords for the tune, oh well...
[Intro]
Bbv6 ^Dbv6 ^Db^d7 ^Abv6
F^m9 ^Ev7vv#9/^B Bb^d7(~5) B^d7
[Verse]
F^m9 B^d7 ^Ab^d7 ^EbvM7<br>
Ruby, My Dear
F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 vAv6 Bbv6
vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7<br>
Hold back that tear
vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7
Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7<br>
I know he's gone
Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7
vC^m7 Bb^m7<br>
Your love has flown
Av,9 E7sus4no5 B^d7<br>
You're all alone
[Bridge]
^AvM7 B^m7 B^d7<br>
One day he came to you
F#^m7 ^Av6<br>
And made the music play
Bbv6 B^d7<br>
In his way
Ebv6 Ebva Ebv/vC<br>
You said you'd rather die
vD^m7 Eb^m7 A^d7 Ebva<br>
Than say goodbye
[Outro]
F^m9 B^d7 Ab^d7(~5) EbvM7<br>
But there'll come a day
F^m7 Gb^m7 vG^m7 ^Abv6 Av6 Bbv6
vG^m9 vG^d7/^Db (was Dbd7) Bbvd7 FvM7<br>
Though he's away
vG^m7 Ab^m7 vA^m7
Bb^m7 Bb^d7 vG^d7(~5) AbvM7<br>
You'll sing his song
Bb^m7 vB^m7 vC^m7
vC^m7 Bb^m7<br>
You'll carry on
Av,9 E7sus4no5 Av6<br>
Ruby, My Dear
[[User:TallKite|TallKite]] ([[User talk:TallKite|talk]]) 09:30, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
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