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'''Fudging''', or virtual tempering, is the use of one [[just intonation]] interval to approximate another | '''Fudging''', or virtual tempering, is the use of one [[just intonation]] interval to approximate another. | ||
== Fudgers == | |||
Below are listed fudging intervals (or '''fudgers''') which are all ratios between two 15-limit [[tonality diamond]] intervals (listed in the fifth column) which come within a comma of less than eight cents (listed in the fourth column) of a 15-limit tonality diamond interval (listed in the third column). If the [[comma]] is less than 1, the fudger is flat of the interval it approximates; if greater than 1, sharp of it. | |||
=== Up-fudge === | |||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! | ! Fudger | ||
! | ! Cents | ||
! | ! Approximately | ||
! | ! Comma(s) | ||
! ( | ! (Example) intervals | ||
! | ! Name | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 242/225 | | [[242/225]] | ||
| 126.098 | | 126.098 | ||
| 15/14, 14/13 | | 15/14, 14/13 | ||
Line 81: | Line 77: | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 81/70 | | [[81/70]] | ||
| 252.680 | | 252.680 | ||
| 15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 75/64 | | [[75/64]] | ||
| 274.582 | | 274.582 | ||
| 7/6 | | 7/6 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 32/27 | | [[32/27]] | ||
| 294.135 | | 294.135 | ||
| 13/11 | | 13/11 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 60/49 | | [[60/49]] | ||
| 350.617 | | 350.617 | ||
| 11/9 | | 11/9 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 49/40 | | [[49/40]] | ||
| 351.338 | | 351.338 | ||
| 11/9 | | 11/9 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 100/81 | | [[100/81]] | ||
| 364.807 | | 364.807 | ||
| 16/13 | | 16/13 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 80/63 | | [[80/63]] | ||
| 413.578 | | 413.578 | ||
| 14/11 | | 14/11 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 32/25 | | [[32/25]] | ||
| 427.373 | | 427.373 | ||
| 9/7 | | 9/7 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 35/27 | | [[35/27]] | ||
| 449.275 | | 449.275 | ||
| 13/10 | | 13/10 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 49/36 | | [[49/36]] | ||
| 533.742 | | 533.742 | ||
| 15/11 | | 15/11 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 48/35 | | [[48/35]] | ||
| 546.815 | | 546.815 | ||
| 11/8 | | 11/8 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 25/18 | | [[25/18]] | ||
| 568.717 | | 568.717 | ||
| 18/13 | | 18/13 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 36/25 | | [[36/25]] | ||
| 631.283 | | 631.283 | ||
| 13/9 | | 13/9 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 35/24 | | [[35/24]] | ||
| 653.185 | | 653.185 | ||
| 16/11 | | 16/11 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 54/35 | | [[54/35]] | ||
| 750.725 | | 750.725 | ||
| 20/13 | | 20/13 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 25/16 | | [[25/16]] | ||
| 772.627 | | 772.627 | ||
| 14/9 | | 14/9 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 49/30 | | [[49/30]] | ||
| 849.383 | | 849.383 | ||
| 18/11 | | 18/11 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 105/64 | | [[105/64]] | ||
| 857.095 | | 857.095 | ||
| 18/11 | | 18/11 | ||
| 385/384 | | 385/384 | ||
| [16/15 7/4 | | [16/15 7/4] | ||
| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 27/16 | | [[27/16]] | ||
| 905.865 | | 905.865 | ||
| 22/13 | | 22/13 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 128/75 | | [[128/75]] | ||
| 925.418 | | 925.418 | ||
| 12/7 | | 12/7 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 140/81 | | [[140/81]] | ||
| 947.320 | | 947.320 | ||
| 26/15 | | 26/15 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
| 64/35 | | [[64/35]] | ||
| 1044.86 | | 1044.86 | ||
| 11/6 | | 11/6 | ||
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| undecimal secor | | undecimal secor | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 28/25 | | [[28/25]] | ||
| 196.198 | | 196.198 | ||
| 9/8 | | 9/8 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 224/195 | | [[224/195]] | ||
| 240.030 | | 240.030 | ||
| 15/13 | | 15/13 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 77/60 | | [[77/60]] | ||
| 431.875 | | 431.875 | ||
| 9/7 | | 9/7 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 110/81 | | [[110/81]] | ||
| 529.812 | | 529.812 | ||
| 15/11 | | 15/11 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 81/55 | | [[81/55]] | ||
| 670.188 | | 670.188 | ||
| 22/15 | | 22/15 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 25/14 | | [[25/14]] | ||
| 1003.802 | | 1003.802 | ||
| 16/9 | | 16/9 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 256/225 | | [[256/225]] | ||
| 223.463 | | 223.463 | ||
| 8/7 | | 8/7 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 27/22 | | [[27/22]] | ||
| 354.547 | | 354.547 | ||
| 11/9, 16/13 | | 11/9, 16/13 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 45/32 | | [[45/32]] | ||
| 590.224 | | 590.224 | ||
| 7/5 | | 7/5 | ||
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| | | | ||
|- | |- | ||
| 64/45 | | [[64/45]] | ||
| 609.776 | | 609.776 | ||
| 10/7 | | 10/7 | ||
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| 75/52 | | 75/52 | ||
| 634.055 | | 634.055 | ||
| 13/9 | |||
| 675/676 | | 675/676 | ||
| [16/15 20/13] | | [16/15 20/13] | ||
| | | | ||
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|} | |} | ||
===Down-fudge=== | === Down-fudge === | ||
{| class="wikitable" | {| class="wikitable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
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|} | |} | ||
[[Category:15-limit]] | == Limit-raising and limit-lowering fudgers == | ||
A limit-raising fudger is a p prime limit interval which approximates to a q prime limit consonance, with p<q. An example is 100/77, which is 1001/1000 (1.7 cents) flat of [[13/10]], and which arises in 11-limit scales as the interval between 11/10 and 10/7, giving 13-limit harmony "for free", so to speak. | |||
A limit-lowering fudger is an interval such as the marvelous fourth, 75/56, which is 225/224 (7.7 cents) sharp of 4/3, and which arises very often in 7-limit JI scales as the interval between 16/15 and 10/7, 7/5 and 15/8, 8/5 and 15/7, and 28/15 and 5/2, giving a 3-limit interval approximated in the 7-limit. | |||
== Tempering fudging commas == | |||
By [[tempering out]] the fudging commas, the error in the fudging may be distributed evenly. Since 225/224, 385/384 and 540/539 occur so commonly as fudging commas, marvel tempering in particular is often an excellent means to introduce smooth 7- and 11-limit harmonies into 5- or 7- limit scales. Adding 441/440 to that list results in miracle tempering, another excellent smoothing option. | |||
However, indiscriminate tempering can lead to problems. For example, [[112/75]], 121/81, 338/225, 182/121 and 176/117 are all fudged fifths, with commas [[676/675]], [[364/363]], [[352/351]], [[243/242]] and [[225/224]]. Tempering them all out leads to 34d tempering, a rather crude system by comparison. | |||
[[Category:15-odd-limit]] | |||
[[Category:Method]] | [[Category:Method]] | ||
[[Category:Terms]] | [[Category:Terms]] | ||
[[Category: | [[Category:Lists of intervals]] | ||
[[Category:Just intonation]] | [[Category:Just intonation]] | ||