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remove name lacking conceptual relevance, strong reasons or consensus, which also came later than "biminorisma"/"biminoric" and which was rejected by multiple people including the proposer of "biminorisma" (Scott Dakota). also put temperament here where it fits (the page for the temperament was very bare-bones and i am adding more information). however, kept history on the name, song mention and used that to include a link to spoogalactic temperament
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'''784/783''', the '''biminorisma''', is a [[29-limit]] interval, and is the distance between the intervals [[29/28]] and [[28/27]] (thus having the [[S-expression]] '''S28'''). The name comes from that [[7/6]] and [[29/24]] are separated by [[29/28]] and as are [[36/29]] and [[9/7]], where 9/7 is [[28/27]] below [[4/3]] and 7/6 is [[28/27]] above [[9/8]], therefore, tempering this comma adds the prime 29 to the [[2.3.7 subgroup]] with very high accuracy, yielding thirds obviously distinct flavours of thirds, as a third-tone lies between the two minor thirds (and hence the two major thirds). Importantly, this comma was not named the "bimajorisma" to further distance from association with an ''unrelated'' temperament named [[Bisupermajor]].
'''784/783''', the '''biminorisma''', is an [[unnoticeable comma|unnoticeable]] [[29-limit]] [[comma]] measuring about 2.21{{cent}}. It is the distance between the intervals [[29/28]] and [[28/27]] (thus having the [[S-expression]] '''S28'''). The name comes from that [[7/6]] and [[29/24]] are separated by [[29/28]] as are [[36/29]] and [[9/7]], where 9/7 is [[28/27]] below [[4/3]] and 7/6 is [[28/27]] above [[9/8]], and therefore, [[tempering out]] this comma adds the prime 29 to the [[2.3.7 subgroup]] with very high accuracy, yielding obviously distinct flavours of thirds, as a third-tone lies between the two minor thirds and between the two major thirds. This comma was not named the ''bimajorisma'' to further distance from association with the unrelated temperament named [[bisupermajor]].
 
== Temperaments ==
Tempering out this comma in the 2.3.7.29 subgroup results in the rank-3 '''biminoric temperament''', a.k.a. '''spoogalactic temperament'''. It tempers [[28/27]] and [[29/28]] together, as well as [[49/27]] and [[29/16]] together. Edos that support it include [[36edo]], [[41edo]], [[58edo]], [[118edo]], and [[135edo]]. Patent edo tunings with less than 25% [[relative error]] on [[7/4]] and less than 20% [[relative error]] on [[29/16]]: 22, 27, 36, 41, 63, 77, 99, 113, 135, 140, 162, 176, 198, 203, 212, 217, 239, 275, 297, 302, 311, 316, 338, 352, 374, 379, 415, 437, 451, 473, 478, 487, 492, 514, 550, 555, 577, 591, 613, 627, 649, 654, 690, 726, 731, 767, 789, 825, 830, 866, 902, 1001.
 
=== Biminoric ===
[[Subgroup]]: 2.3.7.29
 
[[Comma list]]: 784/783
 
{{Mapping|legend=2| 1 0 0 4 | 0 1 0 -3 | 0 0 1 2 }}
 
[[Optimal tuning]]s:
* [[CTE]]: ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 702.169, ~7/4 = 968.378


== Scales ==
== Scales ==
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2/1
2/1
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Which can be tempered using one's preferred tuning of [[#Biminoric|Biminoric]]. For example, using the [[POTE]] tuning of Biminoric yields:
Which can be tempered using one's preferred tuning of [[#Biminoric|Biminoric]]. For example, using the [[POTE]] tuning yields:
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61.8726
61.8726
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1200.0000
1200.0000
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== Temperaments ==
=== Biminoric ===
Subgroup: 2.3.7.29


Patent EDO tunings with <25% [[relative error]] on [[7/4]] and <20% [[relative error]] on [[29/16]]: 22, 27, 36, 41, 63, 77, 99, 113, 135, 140, 162, 176, 198, 203, 212, 217, 239, 275, 297, 302, 311, 316, 338, 352, 374, 379, 415, 437, 451, 473, 478, 487, 492, 514, 550, 555, 577, 591, 613, 627, 649, 654, 690, 726, 731, 767, 789, 825, 830, 866, 902, 1001
== Trivia ==
A form of this temperament is used in the song [https://on.soundcloud.com/fJWXc "Into The Spoogalaxy!"] by members of the [[XA Discord]] server for the 2023 Server vs. Server music competition, from which was invented a light-hearted alternative name "spoogalactic comma" thus implying a "spoogalactic temperament", but it is recommended to use the formal names ''biminoric'' and ''biminorisma'', the name proposed prior by [[Scott Dakota]], who had also spent time using the rank-3 temperament prior to suggesting names for the comma (of which ''biminorisma'' was favoured by other members of the [[XA Discord]]).


CTE generators: (2/1,) 3/2 = 702.169{{cent}}, 7/4 = 968.378{{cent}}
[[Category:Commas named for the intervals they stack]]
 
== Trivia ==
A form of this temperament being used in the song [https://on.soundcloud.com/fJWXc "Into The Spoogalaxy!"] by members of the [[XA Discord]] server for the 2023 Server vs. Server music competition, from which was invented a light-hearted alternative name "spoogalactic comma" thus implying a "[[spoogalactic temperament]]", but it is recommended to use the formal names "Biminoric" and "Biminorisma", the name proposed prior by [[Scott Dakota]], who had also spent time using the rank 3 temperament prior to suggesting names for the comma (of which "Biminorisma" was favoured by other members of the [[XA Discord]]).

Latest revision as of 02:56, 16 November 2024

Interval information
Ratio 784/783
Subgroup monzo 2.3.7.29 [4 -3 2 -1
Size in cents 2.209616¢
Name biminorisma
Color name twenuzozo 2nd, 29uzz2,
Twenuzozo comma
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m2}^{7,7}_{29} }[/math]
Special properties square superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 19.2276
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 19.2294
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 60
Comma size unnoticeable
S-expression S28
Open this interval in xen-calc

784/783, the biminorisma, is an unnoticeable 29-limit comma measuring about 2.21 ¢. It is the distance between the intervals 29/28 and 28/27 (thus having the S-expression S28). The name comes from that 7/6 and 29/24 are separated by 29/28 as are 36/29 and 9/7, where 9/7 is 28/27 below 4/3 and 7/6 is 28/27 above 9/8, and therefore, tempering out this comma adds the prime 29 to the 2.3.7 subgroup with very high accuracy, yielding obviously distinct flavours of thirds, as a third-tone lies between the two minor thirds and between the two major thirds. This comma was not named the bimajorisma to further distance from association with the unrelated temperament named bisupermajor.

Temperaments

Tempering out this comma in the 2.3.7.29 subgroup results in the rank-3 biminoric temperament, a.k.a. spoogalactic temperament. It tempers 28/27 and 29/28 together, as well as 49/27 and 29/16 together. Edos that support it include 36edo, 41edo, 58edo, 118edo, and 135edo. Patent edo tunings with less than 25% relative error on 7/4 and less than 20% relative error on 29/16: 22, 27, 36, 41, 63, 77, 99, 113, 135, 140, 162, 176, 198, 203, 212, 217, 239, 275, 297, 302, 311, 316, 338, 352, 374, 379, 415, 437, 451, 473, 478, 487, 492, 514, 550, 555, 577, 591, 613, 627, 649, 654, 690, 726, 731, 767, 789, 825, 830, 866, 902, 1001.

Biminoric

Subgroup: 2.3.7.29

Comma list: 784/783

Subgroup-val mapping[1 0 0 4], 0 1 0 -3], 0 0 1 2]]

Optimal tunings:

  • CTE: ~2 = 1\1, ~3/2 = 702.169, ~7/4 = 968.378

Scales

Biminordene

Designed and named by Scott Dakota, the JI pre-image is:

28/27
9/8
7/6
9/7
4/3
81/56
3/2
14/9
12/7
7/4
27/14
2/1

Which can be tempered using one's preferred tuning of Biminoric. For example, using the POTE tuning yields:

61.8726
204.5643
266.4369
435.8452
497.7179
640.4095
702.2821
764.1548
933.5631
968.7190
1138.1274
1200.0000

Trivia

A form of this temperament is used in the song "Into The Spoogalaxy!" by members of the XA Discord server for the 2023 Server vs. Server music competition, from which was invented a light-hearted alternative name "spoogalactic comma" thus implying a "spoogalactic temperament", but it is recommended to use the formal names biminoric and biminorisma, the name proposed prior by Scott Dakota, who had also spent time using the rank-3 temperament prior to suggesting names for the comma (of which biminorisma was favoured by other members of the XA Discord).