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Generator-offset scales generalize the notion of [[dipentatonic scale|dipentatonic]] and [[diheptatonic scale|diheptatonic]] scales where the pentatonic and heptatonic are [[MOS scales]]. A related but distinct notion is [[alternating generator sequence]]. While scales produced using the generator-offset procedure can be seen as a result of an alternating generator sequence of 2 alternants, the generator-offset perspective views the sum of the two alternants as the "canonical" generator, and the alternants as rather being possible choices of the offset which are effectively equivalent up to chirality. While a well-formed AGS scale requires each alternant in the AGS to subtend the same number of steps, the generator-offset property only requires each (aggregate) generator to subtend the same number of steps.
Generator-offset scales generalize the notion of [[dipentatonic scale|dipentatonic]] and [[diheptatonic scale|diheptatonic]] scales where the pentatonic and heptatonic are [[MOS scales]]. A related but distinct notion is [[alternating generator sequence]]. While scales produced using the generator-offset procedure can be seen as a result of an alternating generator sequence of 2 alternants, the generator-offset perspective views the sum of the two alternants as the "canonical" generator, and the alternants as rather being possible choices of the offset which are effectively equivalent up to chirality. While a well-formed AGS scale requires each alternant in the AGS to subtend the same number of steps, the generator-offset property only requires each (aggregate) generator to subtend the same number of steps.


Note: In Inthar's contribution to [[aberrismic theory]], this term has been superseded by [[guide frame]]s.
== Mathematical definition ==
== Mathematical definition ==
More formally, a cyclic word ''S'' (representing the steps of a [[periodic scale]]) of size ''n'' is '''generator-offset''' if it satisfies the following properties:
More formally, a cyclic word ''S'' (representing the steps of a [[periodic scale]]) of size ''n'' is '''generator-offset''' if it satisfies the following properties:
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# The scale is ''well-formed'' with respect to g, i.e. all occurrences of the generator g are ''k''-steps for a fixed ''k''.
# The scale is ''well-formed'' with respect to g, i.e. all occurrences of the generator g are ''k''-steps for a fixed ''k''.


== Open questions ==
This heading has those open questions for which no conjecture has yet been formed either way. (These can be updated as necessary)
# Given any arbitrary MOS (or DE, etc) scale with at least three notes per period, is there *always* a MV3 generator-offset scale which can be derived as a "detempering" of that scale? Or is this only true for some MOS's? For instance, the MOS LLsLLLs has the MV3 generator-offset scale LmsLmLs as a detempering. Does a similar MV3 detempering exist for every possible DE scale with at least three notes per period, or at least for strict MOS's with one period per octave (e.g. well-formed scales)?
# The scale tree is a great way to analyze MOS scales. For any generator, we can compute the various MOS's it forms if we simply look at the scale tree, and indeed MOS "words" like LLsLLLs can be identified with regions on the scale tree (in this situation the interval between 4/7 and 3/5). A similar "scale plane" should exist for generator-offset-MV3 scales, where given some word representing a generator-offset-MV3 scale, we can look at the set of points on the generator plane which generates it; these seem to often be triangles, with the lines corresponding to MOS's and the vertices corresponding to EDOs (though is this always true?). What is the big picture of this scale plane? Can we use Viggo Brun's algorithm for this, generalizing the theory of continued fractions? Is there some simple formula we can use to predict, given some generator-offset-MV3 scale, which region on the scale plane it corresponds to? Can we plot simple generator-size-proportions as points in this space? And so on.
# In the theory of MOS, there is a second [[MOS Scale Family Tree|scale tree]] that is less frequently talked about, which Erv Wilson calls the "Rabbit Sequence" ([http://www.anaphoria.com/RabbitSequence.pdf Erv Wilson's original version], [https://mikebattagliamusic.com/MOSTree/MOSTreeab.html interactive version 1], [https://mikebattagliamusic.com/MOSTree/MOSTreeLs.html interactive version 2]). This is a tree for which each MOS word has two children, depending on if the MOS is "soft" (with L/s < 2) or "hard" (with L/s > 2). For instance, LsLss has the two children LLsLLLs and ssLsssL. Does a similar scale plane exist for these generator-offset-MV3 scales?


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Latest revision as of 13:19, 9 August 2024

A scale satisfies the generator-offset property if it satisfies the following properties:

  1. The scale is generated by two chains of stacked copies of an interval called the generator.
  2. The two chains are separated by a different interval called the offset (the difference between the first note of the second chain and the first note of the first chain).
  3. The lengths of the chains differ by at most one. (1-3 can be restated as: The scale can be built by stacking two alternating generators (called alternants) a1 and a2. Note that a1 does not need to subtend, i.e. occur as, the same number of steps as a2.)
  4. The generator always occurs as the same number of steps. For example, the generator is never both a 2-step and a 3-step.
Plot of at-most-decatonic MV3 generator-offset scale regions in the plane.

The Zarlino (3L 2M 2S) JI scale is an example of a generator-offset scale, because it is built by stacking alternating 5/4 and 6/5 generators. The 7-limit version of diasem (5L 2M 2S) is another example, with generators 7/6 and 8/7.

Generator-offset scales generalize the notion of dipentatonic and diheptatonic scales where the pentatonic and heptatonic are MOS scales. A related but distinct notion is alternating generator sequence. While scales produced using the generator-offset procedure can be seen as a result of an alternating generator sequence of 2 alternants, the generator-offset perspective views the sum of the two alternants as the "canonical" generator, and the alternants as rather being possible choices of the offset which are effectively equivalent up to chirality. While a well-formed AGS scale requires each alternant in the AGS to subtend the same number of steps, the generator-offset property only requires each (aggregate) generator to subtend the same number of steps.

Note: In Inthar's contribution to aberrismic theory, this term has been superseded by guide frames.

Mathematical definition

More formally, a cyclic word S (representing the steps of a periodic scale) of size n is generator-offset if it satisfies the following properties:

  1. S is generated by two chains of stacked generators g separated by a fixed offset δ; either both chains are of size n/2 (implying n is even), or one chain has size (n + 1)/2 and the second has size (n − 1)/2 (implying n is odd).
  2. The scale is well-formed with respect to g, i.e. all occurrences of the generator g are k-steps for a fixed k.