Xenharmonic Wiki:Wikifuture

From Xenharmonic Wiki
(Redirected from Incomplete)
Jump to navigation Jump to search

Hello there! This page is for general discussion on how to improve the wiki. A community wish list of sorts.

For bugs, please report them at: Bugs

See also Conventions, Things to Do, Projects#WikiProjects, Migration FAQ, as well as Category:Todo and its subcategories.

This page has associated archive pages:

Future of this wiki

Please leave suggestions below. Don't forget to sign them: type ~~~~ after your comment to leave a signature. For example: Mike Battaglia (talk) 12:46, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Transfer from riters.com

There are still a couple of pages at http://riters.com/microtonal that could be copied over if we want this to be the one true wiki. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Warning: That site is very old! PiotrGrochowski (talk) 07:44, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Improved Yahoo! search engine

Now that you can do an advanced search of the tuning (or other) list over the entirety of its life on Yahoo, there is less need to copy things from the tuning list archive. On the other hand, particularly well-written emails might deserve to get their own page. Authors' permissions necessary? zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Database of "microtonal solutions"

Not only examples of hardware-software setups as Jon Szanto has repeatedly suggested, but also acoustic solutions, experiencial instrument-making info, a list with the location of every known rare microtonal instrument, and perhaps a way for composers to write for such instruments (providing the curators of them want this)

An instrument-centric approach: MicrotonalInstruments. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Improved Listening List

The list of downloadable microtonal sounds is in good shape. It does need people to watch relevant sources (tuning and MMM lists come to mind) and add/update the links. A reviewing or rating system, perhaps also of CD releases, may additionally be helpful. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Fill out the scale catalogue

Sources for this: all the Yahoo! lists, the Scala archive, original reflection on new and old scales, pages of X.J. Scott, David Finnamore, Tonalsoft...? Have at least one sound example (midi, mp3, ogg...) for each scale, and keep in mind that this wiki allows you to upload files up to 5 MB each.

Ever since learning about the MOS scales I have desired but not seen a good, thorough introduction to them, or to the two-dimensional method of creating scales. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

An FAQ: everyone posts questions, answers

This could be sufficiently primed by mining the lists. But more importantly it would need to be linked to by a high-search-engine-ranking page. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Pages on debates?

Do we want to touch the dangerous stuff? JI vs. ET vs. EDO? MMM vs. just plain MM? The point would not be to have another place to play out the old arguments, but to make something useful out of them.

On the other hand, we could make pages on points that many can agree on, with the aim of working together to come up with ways to meet our collective goals. The obvious one, originally Harry Partch: Microtonality is overlooked or dismissed all too often, and the best way to counter its detractors is in making good music with it. zenjacob (talk 21:12, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

More on making things: a radical proposal

To me, the wiki as a structure remains an invitation to try new ways to represent information and to cause social interaction to happen. Much of this is overlap with the general Web 2.0 mentality, as well as creeping exhibitionism: why blog or wiki about something you're doing instead of just doing it? What I add to it are Unreasonable Expectations (that others are doing similar things and just need a poke or two in the direction of sharing) and Half-Baked Ideas (for projects that I personally don't have the time to complete but we can perhaps get a coalition of the wishing-it-would-happen). This idea itself is admittedly half-baked, but (and this is the point) I don't let it stop me.

So the radical proposal is this: be irresponsible. Start something you don't intend to finish, just to see how beautiful it is. Pretend you are backed up by a solid movement of joyous people rather than a smattering of bickering and frigid but seemingly well-meaning folks. And it will (maybe) come true. xenjacob (talk 15:24, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Javascript strategy

Javascript is by default disabled on Mediawiki for security reasons. However, it could be a really really powerful tool for making accessible, interactive explanations for a lot of things. Just as an example, imagine that any number followed by ¢ would automagically create an exemplary audio file like the one linked to at the top of octave...imagine something like that playing when you hover over the text. Or imagine a Lissajous curve appears in the background when you hover over a just ratio. There are some of us capable in Javascript, and some extant widgets written in Javascript, like Billy Stiltner's MOSedo and AKJ's tools. We need at least a collected xenharmonic Javascript library, and maybe that project can't live here, but it would be nice to see it eventually integrated somehow. Xenjacob (talk) 15:51, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Add more languages

This wiki could benefit from wiki translators to add new languages to this wiki. PiotrGrochowski (talk) 18:05, 4 October 2018 (UTC)

Add image annotations

Could you install this https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Gadget-ImageAnnotator/Installation so we can add annotations to diagrams, like labeling chords in File:Consonance map, triads, sawtooth waves.png ? ResonantFrequencies (talk) 17:51, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

Process for importing templates and all their dependencies: https://webmasters.stackexchange.com/questions/117429/how-to-use-wikipedia-templates-on-an-outside-mediawiki/117436#117436 ResonantFrequencies (talk) 02:38, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Interwiki for xen-calc

Requesting interwiki for https://www.yacavone.net/xen-calc/?q=$1. These links are used by Template:Infobox Interval and captchas are annoying. Plumtree (talk) 15:02, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

Create table of interval pages for large edos you’re familiar with

If you are familiar with a large edo (100edo or higher), please create a “Table of #edo intervals” page for it, along the lines of Table of 99edo intervals or Table of 198edo intervals.

Please only do this if you are familiar with the edo, though: i.e. you have made music with the edo, or the edo falls within your sphere of expertise as a theorist.

FloraC and Budjarn Lambeth, 21 January 2024.

More sound examples

We should really add some sound examples - it makes regular wikipedia and other xen websites much more comprehensible/easily digestable.

--RobFast on XA Discord, 23 January 2024.

Add no-twos consistency to Infobox ET

The no-twos consistency limit should be added to Template:Infobox ET for EDTs.

Suggested by Lériendil on the XA Discord roughly 30 hours ago, and received 7 positive reacts and no negative reacts.

BudjarnLambeth (talk) 06:22, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

Create a "comma names explained" page

Create a page explaining how to interpet the following types of comma names:

  • "31-comma", "63-comma", "241-comma", etc.
  • "11-3/5-comma", "300-3/5-comma", "45-7/5-comma" etc.
  • "87-15-comma", "21-23-comma", "59-5 comma", etc.
  • "35-cycle", "21-cycle", "19-cycle", etc.
  • "5/7-kleisma", "35/11 kleisma", etc.
  • "19th partial chroma", "29th partial chroma", etc.
  • "34-jubilismic", "23 semitone", "19-minor mediant", etc.
  • "87-fold starling comma" (what does 87-fold mean?)
  • "prima", "secunda", any other related words
  • "trientone", "trienstonic", any other related words
  • "hexadecatone", "hendecatonic", any other related words

I would do this myself but I don't actually know what any of them mean.

BudjarnLambeth (talk) 24 October 2024 (Sydney time)

Update: Work on this has begun, but is still ongoing. Contribute at: Systematic comma names explained