11/10

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11/10, the large undecimal neutral second or undecimal submajor second, is the simplest submajor second. It is 15 cents sharp of 12/11 and 17 cents flat of 10/9. When tuned just or near-just, it not only has the very exotic melodic role of being almost exactly a third of 4/3, leading to 4000/3993 being fudged, but is also very close in size to a stack consisting of an apotome and 33/32, leading to the schisma being fudged. Keeping 11/10 distinct from 12/11 ensures that 11/10 bridges quartertone-based chords with more typical 5-limit and Pythagorean chords as a step between notes.

Interval information
Ratio 11/10
Factorization 2-1 × 5-1 × 11
Monzo [-1 0 -1 0 1
Size in cents 165.0042¢
Names large undecimal neutral second,
undecimal submajor second
Color name 1og2, logu 2nd
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{m2}^{11}_{5} }[/math]
Special properties superparticular,
reduced
Tenney norm (log2 nd) 6.78136
Weil norm (log2 max(n, d)) 6.91886
Wilson norm (sopfr(nd)) 18

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11/10 is the octave-reduced form of 11/5, one of the three most concordant 11-limit intervals within the entire first two octaves along with 11/4 and 11/3.

Approximation

11/10 is approximated extremely precisely by 80edo and its multiples, with a chain of 80 11/10's failing to close at the octave by a mere third of a cent, close enough that you could theoretically tune an instrument to 80edo by ear using it if you had the patience. 11/10 is also approximated within 2 cents by 22edo, and is 4c sharp of an octave-reduced stack of 9 generators in BPS.

Temperaments

Using 11/10 as a generator tempering out 4000/3993 (as previously mentioned) leads to scales that look like porcupine but whose harmonies can more accurately be explained. With a half-octave period, a generator of 11/10 leads to temperaments in the stearnsmic clan such as pogo, supers, or echidna, all of which detemper 100/99 and 121/120 and efficiently and accurately find 11-limit and (no-13's) 17-limit harmonies.

Using sqrt(11/10) as a generator leads to low-complexity Nautilus with one period to the octave and high-accuracy Harry with two periods; using cbrt(11/10) as a generator leads to Escapade with one period to the octave.

See also