24/17

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Interval information
Ratio 24/17
Subgroup monzo 2.3.17 [3 1 -1
Size in cents 596.9996¢
Name smaller septendecimal tritone
Color name 17u4, su 4th
FJS name [math]\displaystyle{ \text{A4}_{17} }[/math]
Special properties reduced
Tenney height (log2 nd) 8.67243
Weil height (log2 max(n, d)) 9.16993
Wilson height (sopfr(nd)) 26

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In 17-limit just intonation, 24/17 is the smaller septendecimal tritone, measuring very nearly 597¢. It is the mediant between 7/5 and 17/12, the "larger septendecimal tritone". The two septendecimal tritones are each 3¢ away from the 600¢ half-octave, and so they are well-represented in all even-numbered EDO systems, including 12edo. Indeed, the latter system, containing good approximations of the 3rd and 17th harmonics, can use the half-octave as 24/17 and 17/12 in close approximations to chords such as 8:12:17 and 16:17:24. 22edo is another good EDO system for using the half-octave in this way.

Terminology and notation

There exists a disagreement in different conceptualization systems on whether 24/17 should be an augmented fourth or a diminished fifth. In Functional Just System, it is an augmented fourth, separated by 4131/4096 from 729/512, the Pythagorean augmented fourth. In Helmholtz-Ellis notation, it is a diminished fifth, separated by 2187/2176 from 1024/729, the Pythagorean diminished fifth. The term "small septendecimal tritone" omits the distinction and only describes its melodic property i.e. the size.

In practice, the interval category may, arguably, vary by context. One solution for the JI user who uses expanded circle-of-fifths notation is to prepare a Pythagorean comma accidental so that the interval can be notated in either category.

See also